Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
If you look at real income growth, however, you'll find that faster growth states are often falling behind because of inflation, especially nowadays.
I used to put a lot more stock in numbers like MHI, but unless you're accounting for things like inflation and regional price indexes (cost-of-living), they're basically meaningless.
I was more curious about if economies are noticeably changing, not necessarily if it's been beneficial. The 21.48% growth in California doesn't mean that things are more livable there, but with the info of what's actually going on there, that the gap between the haves and the have-nots is getting worse. Alabama and Kentucky's growth indicate that they're slowly getting more into the Sunbelt industry draw, bit it hasn't hit Mississippi or Louisiana. DC's growth disgusts me; it doesn't make me think it's good despite being the highest by a large margin in any way you look at it. Assuming MHI is the end all in telling about income growth is a folly, but it can be an indicator to look into things. For example, I'm curious why Oklahoma didn't grow much and why Rhode Island did notably better than the rest of the Northeast.
I was more curious about if economies are noticeably changing, not necessarily if it's been beneficial. The 21.48% growth in California doesn't mean that things are more livable there, but with the info of what's actually going on there, that the gap between the haves and the have-nots is getting worse. Alabama and Kentucky's growth indicate that they're slowly getting more into the Sunbelt industry draw, bit it hasn't hit Mississippi or Louisiana. DC's growth disgusts me; it doesn't make me think it's good despite being the highest by a large margin in any way you look at it. Assuming MHI is the end all in telling about income growth is a folly, but it can be an indicator to look into things. For example, I'm curious why Oklahoma didn't grow much and why Rhode Island did notably better than the rest of the Northeast.
That's fair, and yes I would agree that at the very least MHI changes can be telling about some underlying trends and dynamics.
In the case of a small state like Rhode Island, I think you can see some more statistical "noise" with higher margins of error.
Yes, I think 5-year increments would be much better for accuracy. Of course, many would point to administrative costs for administering the Census, but you can't tell me there isn't room for much greater counting efficiencies with today's technology, especially since nearly everyone carries around a built-in tracking device these days.
Meanwhile, in other countries people are registered living in a specfic place and their ability to receives government services is dependent on keeping this accurate.
Here is Norway where I currently live. There is no need for a census or population estimates when you know exactly how many people are living where at any given time
Quote:
This is the National Registry
The registry forms the basis for the tax register, the electoral register and population statistics. An accurate national registry is essential to ensure that all citizens receive information from public authorities and that their rights and obligations are safeguarded.
Both public and private sector organisations use information from the National Registry. Access is however restricted.
N.B.! Skatteetaten.no is not a searchable database for personal or address information.
The National Registry contains information concerning the following, among other things:
births, names, paternity and parental responsibility
changes of address
changes in marital status
deaths
name changes
citizenship
Who uses information from the National Registry?
The tax authorities
The election authorities
Other public authorities such as the Norwegian Labour and Welfare Administration (NAV), the Directorate of Immigration (UDI), the Norwegian Immigration Appeals Board (UNE), the Norwegian Armed Forces, the Norwegian State Educational Loan Fund, the Norwegian Public Roads Administration, the police, fire and ambulance services
Statistics Norway (SSB)
Banks and insurance companiesEmployers
Researchers
Private organisations and individuals
I imagine both conservatives and liberals in the US would be up in arms (literally) if the federal and state goverments attempted to do something so simple
Wow, even Washington and Oregon barely ticked up (about how much growth Ohio and Pennsylvania get in a typical year).
My guess is some of Idaho's rapid growth was due to migration from Washington and Oregon (in addition to California). There is a large cost of living differential vs. the West Coast states.
My guess is some of Idaho's rapid growth was due to migration from Washington and Oregon (in addition to California). There is a large cost of living differential vs. the West Coast states.
Generally overlooked but likely a strong contributor to that migration factor you mentioned, there are also the last 2 straight summers to take into account during which the West Coast and much of the Pacific Northwest suffered terribly from fires AND horrible air quality.
The thing I'm anticipating is when the realization hits home that inland Western states like Idaho, Utah, Nevada, Montana Colorado & Wyoming where Westcoasters are supposedly relocating to all also have their own fire (and lack of water) problems that also include markedly worsening air quality.
If you can't find good air quality outside for months in those states, "the bloom will soon fall off the rose" for them too.
Generally overlooked but likely a strong contributor to that migration factor you mentioned, there are also the last 2 straight summers to take into account during which the West Coast and much of the Pacific Northwest suffered terribly from fires AND horrible air quality.
The thing I'm anticipating is when the realization hits home that inland Western states like Idaho, Utah, Nevada, Montana Colorado & Wyoming where Westcoasters are supposedly relocating to all also have their own fire (and lack of water) problems that also include markedly worsening air quality.
If you can't find good air quality outside for months in those states, "the bloom will soon fall off the rose" for them too.
Agreed with this - I was raised in southern California myself, and will gladly take the humidity of the South (which isn't overly intense in my area) over the ecological issues that the Western states have been dealing with recently.
Some of the fast growth in Idaho and Utah is also due to the high fertility of the Mormon/LDS populations. Those states are therefore likely to keep growing regardless of migration patterns.
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.
Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.