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Old 02-22-2022, 09:36 AM
 
Location: OC
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I'm not sure if the number is actually higher? Maybe 12-16% is about right? There are a lot of places where there are basically no black people.
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Old 02-22-2022, 09:53 AM
 
Location: Brooklyn, New York
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This article from The Guardian talks about this issue:

https://amp.theguardian.com/us-news/...mistakes-count

The black population has been undercounted for decades. There are a number of reasons why, which the article above addresses. Some of the more common, recent reasons include:

-Some black people, especially in the rural south, live in hard to reach places

-Homeless people are difficult to find/count

-Many black people don't trust the government and don't give over information

True, many of those reasons apply to other races as well, but the article states that the Census more often misses black people while counting some white people twice (3%). So even with a little miscounting, the white population average is likely more accurate than the black population number.
Just some counter points to consider:

-Some black people, especially in the rural south, live in hard to reach places
Just as many, if not more, white people live in very hard to reach places.

-Homeless people are difficult to find/count
Even if ALL homeless people were black, which is not the case, despite popular opinion homeless comprise a very very tiny percentage of the US population, below 1%, so they would not effect population statistics.

-Many black people don't trust the government and don't give over information
This is true. However, consider the fact that IF black people were severely undercounted as implied, their total fertility rate would be through the roof, since the amount of fertile black women would be severely undercounted as well, but we do not see this phenomenon at all. That means the official numbers for black population are roughly accurate. The amount of black kids born is roughly what you would expect given the official % of black population in the census.
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Old 02-22-2022, 10:22 AM
 
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It is my understanding that the black population has remained stagnant for the past decade or so due to high abortion rates among black women and high mortality rates among black men.
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Old 02-22-2022, 10:28 AM
 
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It is my understanding that the black population has remained stagnant for the past decade or so due to high abortion rates among black women and high mortality rates among black men.
There is a higher birth rate though, not by much, but I believe it is higher.

Also, from the age of 18 and under, there are actually more black males than females: https://blackdemographics.com/popula...le-statistics/

This offers a historical context: https://blackdemographics.com/population/
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Old 02-22-2022, 10:38 AM
 
Location: Katy,Texas
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It is my understanding that the black population has remained stagnant for the past decade or so due to high abortion rates among black women and high mortality rates among black men.
The second option is far from true. The mortality rate for black men while higher than white men is nowhere high enough to reduce the birth rate. You would need something like 20% of 15-40 year old black men dying within those 20-30 years, and we barely have 1%. The abortion rate is high and does deflate black women's fertility rate, so the black population would probably be a lot bigger proportionally, not double but probably closer to 15-16% Black alone and 18-20% Black in combination.

The black population isn't stagnating however. It has been increasing roughly equivalent to population growth in America. The African American population however, is on the verge of declining and 2020 is probably the last census we will see African American growth, unless culture changes. The black population (encompassing everyone) is likely to keep increasing, especially as African and Mixed race populations grow. But Caribbean and Afro-Latinos are likely to follow the same path as African Americans soon enough.
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Old 02-22-2022, 06:52 PM
 
Location: Tupelo, Ms
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It depends, as there are towns in Southern IL with substantial to high black percentages. A place that comes to mind is Mounds. Cairo is another one.
I meant the state's rural demographic for Black. Back in 2010 it was around 3.5%. Source: https://www.city-data.com/forum/gene...rural-usa.html
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Old 02-22-2022, 06:59 PM
 
Location: Tupelo, Ms
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The African American population however, is on the verge of declining and 2020 is probably the last census we will see African American growth, unless culture changes. The black population (encompassing everyone) is likely to keep increasing, especially as African and Mixed race populations grow. But Caribbean and Afro-Latinos are likely to follow the same path as African Americans soon enough.
Bolded: This isn't an accurate statement. Afram pop have grown from 010-20 by census report. It will continue to grow in the next census.
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Old 02-23-2022, 06:22 AM
 
Location: Pittsburgh, PA (Morningside)
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Bolded: This isn't an accurate statement. Afram pop have grown from 010-20 by census report. It will continue to grow in the next census.
Percentage wise, there was barely any positive movement to the black alone population (up from 12.4% to 12.6%). Essentially all of the growth was due to multiracial individuals with some black ancestry.

When you also consider there were black immigrants over the last decade (from Africa, the Caribbean, etc.) the self-identified African American population was likely smaller percentage wise than in 2010, although higher in absolute numbers.
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Old 02-23-2022, 01:56 PM
 
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Percentage wise, there was barely any positive movement to the black alone population (up from 12.4% to 12.6%). Essentially all of the growth was due to multiracial individuals with some black ancestry.

When you also consider there were black immigrants over the last decade (from Africa, the Caribbean, etc.) the self-identified African American population was likely smaller percentage wise than in 2010, although higher in absolute numbers.
I don't know if that is the case completely, but this offers some idea of growth: https://blackdemographics.com/population/
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Old 02-23-2022, 09:20 PM
 
Location: Tampa - St. Louis
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The black population of the US is nowhere near 30% and never has been.
Actually, colonial America was damn near 30% black.
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