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Old 05-28-2022, 06:30 PM
 
Location: Florida
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Newark > Jersey City?
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Old 05-28-2022, 06:58 PM
 
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I think a good rule would be if the people who live there consider their "secondary" city to be a suburb/edge city of the larger city nearby. So, would people in Tysons and Bethesda say their cities are suburbs/edge cities of DC? I'd say yes. Would people in Newark say they live in a suburb/edge city of NYC? I'd say definitely no. Stamford, CT? Maybe. White Plains? Sure.

By my criteria, the primary skylines would represent the #1 economic engines of their regions in most cases, at least in terms of walkable radii. That's not Newark or St. Paul.


There's no perfect set of parameters, mine included.
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Old 05-28-2022, 07:00 PM
 
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Newark > Jersey City?

Different topics. In Newark's case it's Newark's qualities. In Jersey City's it's proximity to the main skyline, regardless of JC's qualities.
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Old 05-28-2022, 07:24 PM
 
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Different topics. In Newark's case it's Newark's qualities. In Jersey City's it's proximity to the main skyline, regardless of JC's qualities.
Interesting distinction, I see what you mean though. If you just consider JC’s skyline spillover from Manhattan then I guess it doesn’t count. Along those lines, I don’t think Miami really has a secondary skyline.
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Old 05-28-2022, 07:42 PM
 
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Miami's coast is about three miles from the core, without being really connected. That's why I counted it.



Chicago's lakeshore is too continuous.
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Old 05-28-2022, 11:13 PM
 
Location: Louisiana to Houston to Denver to NOVA
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Miami's coast is about three miles from the core, without being really connected. That's why I counted it.



Chicago's lakeshore is too continuous.
Miami's core lies directly on the water.
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Old 05-28-2022, 11:19 PM
 
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It's on the water, but it's three miles from the coast. I'm not sure what you're debating.
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Old 05-29-2022, 12:57 AM
 
Location: Louisiana to Houston to Denver to NOVA
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It's on the water, but it's three miles from the coast. I'm not sure what you're debating.
What coast are you talking about? The coast is right there in downtown.
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Old 05-29-2022, 07:10 AM
 
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Clayton, MO is a pretty strong contender for St. Louis.
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Old 05-29-2022, 10:01 AM
 
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What coast are you talking about? The coast is right there in downtown.

This seems to be a terminology issue. In a localized sense, "coast" usually refers to the land along the open ocean, not inland bays and waterways. (The meaning is different if you're talking about "coastal regions" or in other uses.)
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