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Interesting. I'd put LA and Miami above Philadelphia. LA has all sorts of different pretentious people. Ftr, it also has plenty of perfectly relaxed people. Miami doesn't have droves of the intellectual "elite" who fit the bill of traditional "snobbery," but it does have a lot of hyper-athletic, "I'm God's gift to the word because of my beautiful biceps" types of people. That is a form of pretension. Philadelphia has some traditional East Coast elitism, but the elitism is definitely more subdued than any of its major counterparts (Boston, NYC, DC). It is really known as serving a beautiful mix of down-to-earth, yet somewhat chaotic city energy. Most people in the city I meet are approachable, if not a bit hyper and unfiltered. A lot of people in NYC can be that way too, but it does have a higher percent of people who fit the bill of traditional pretentiousness.
Interesting. I'd put LA and Miami above Philadelphia. LA has all sorts of different pretentious people. Ftr, it also has plenty of perfectly relaxed people. Miami doesn't have droves of the intellectual "elite" who fit the bill of traditional "snobbery," but it does have a lot of hyper-athletic, "I'm God's gift to the word because of my beautiful biceps" types of people. That is a form of pretension. Philadelphia has some traditional East Coast elitism, but the elitism is definitely more subdued than any of its major counterparts (Boston, NYC, DC). It is really known as serving a beautiful mix of down-to-earth, yet somewhat chaotic city energy. Most people in the city I meet are approachable, if not a bit hyper and unfiltered. A lot of people in NYC can be that way too, but it does have a higher percent of people who fit the bill of traditional pretentiousness.
Florida cities just aren't well educated so they don't fit here. Much as I love the state most of it is below average attainment. 19% of Miami residents over 25 don't have a high school education. Close to 10% don't even have a 9th grade education. Basically every number education wise is significantly worse than national average.
Florida cities just aren't well educated so they don't fit here. Much as I love the state most of it is below average attainment. 19% of Miami residents over 25 don't have a high school education. Close to 10% don't even have a 9th grade education. Basically every number education wise is significantly worse than national average.
I believe it's 2020 (or maybe 2019...don't remember), the percentage of Bachelor or higher in Miami metro is something like 33%. So you're absolutely correct.
Part of Miami is rich, yes, and also pretentious, especially around the Beaches or areas like Bricknell. But people also have to remember that Miami metro has lots of people and there is a sizable population of Hispanics that would not have a college education. The relatively low college educated population percentage is also quite consistent across all 25+ age groups, unlike Pittsburgh which has a high percentage of younger population having college degree while a low percentage of older population having college degree.
Chicago is more educated and sophisticated than Miami. A career can go much further in Chicago. But more pretentious? Never.
The same exact thing you said about Miami can be traced to Los Angeles. Regardless of whether or not the pretentiousness is “warranted”, Miami and LA are certainly pretentious.
Fair to say. I get what you're saying. I just know how a Mass. person will view Miami, tis more like 'wow Miami is trying to be pretentious- how amusing'
as evidenced here...
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Yes.
I think there is a difference between pretentious and the type of people who live in Miami.
Pretentiousness can be about money, sophistication, fancy clothes, non-fancy clothes, beer, ethical/moral topics, being a five-generation local -- any number of things. Even in education people in some places will value an MBA from Yale more or less than a humanities degree from a small uni.
The list will look completely different based upon what part you value. I don't think one list can say much unless it's for a specific set of criteria.
Surprised I haven’t seen more people say Twin Cities. Seems like a very educated metro, but with a down to earth Midwestern culture. Probably has some hipster pretentiousness though, like Seattle, Portland, etc..
I saw someone mention Huntsville. That may be the best answer I’ve seen. A metro filled with highly educated STEM types building rockets M-F but living a very normal suburban lifestyle otherwise. IME, engineers are some of the least pretentious highly educated people because they’re often just smart kids from middle-class upbringings who have found a prosperous but non-elitist career path.
Bridgeport, Trenton, and Baltimore. All three are in the top 50 metropolitan areas with the highest educational attainment rates (bachelor's degree or higher).
Chicago is more educated and sophisticated than Miami. A career can go much further in Chicago. But more pretentious? Never.
The same exact thing you said about Miami can be traced to Los Angeles. Regardless of whether or not the pretentiousness is “warranted”, Miami and LA are certainly pretentious.
Chicago is one of the least sophisticated major cities in America, which is precisely why it is so unpretentious. You either love this or hate this, but as it's impossible to pretend that Chicago is unpretentious and also more sophisticated than hyper-glamorous Miami.
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