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Yeah anyone who knows anything about New England would know Hartford is the major city in CT. Even the OBM subordinating Hartford to an MSA 1/2 it’s size in CSA billing is bizarre.
Sort of confirms my bias against CSA’s in general. Which seem rather meaningless collections to me
PHILADELPHIA CSA Components
Atlantic City: 371,272 (Note: Absorbs the previously listed Ocean City Metro Area comprised of Cape May Co.)
Dover: 186,946
Philadelphia - Camden Division: 1,297,611
Philadelphia - Montgomery/Bucks/Chester Division: 2,055,560
Philadelphia - Philadelphia Division: 2,142,440
Philadelphia - Wilmington Division: 745,553
Reading: 430,449
Vineland: 151,356
PHILADELPHIA CSA POPULATION: 7,381,187
Population under Previous Population: 7,381,187
Change: No Change.
Yeah anyone who knows anything about New England would know Hartford is the major city in CT. Even the OBM subordinating Hartford to an MSA 1/2 it’s size in CSA billing is bizarre.
Sort of confirms my bias against CSA’s in general. Which seem rather meaningless collections to me
It's not bizarre, just stupid. But why it's called the New Haven CSA is very clear. New Haven has 138,915 people and Hartford has 120,686. Therefore New Haven gets the crown. Bridgeport is part of New York's CSA, but if it had been added here, it would have gotten top billing since that's how OMB determined the order of cities.
I think it's very stupid, and submitted a public comment back in 2020 recommending that the lead city is the "largest city within the largest component metropolitan or micropolitan area" but it was rejected (I did that so we would have San Francisco CSA, not San Jose CSA).
CT also relies on the most powerful city in the world. New Orleans would be ok if Biloxi was New York.
They removed a large portion of CT from the NYC CSA. The reliance on NYC is really very overstated. NYC is just too far too be practical for 75% of the state. The economic might of NYC doesn't much influence life in Hartford-New Haven-Waterbury.
They removed a large portion of CT from the NYC CSA. The reliance on NYC is really very overstated. NYC is just too far too be practical for 75% of the state. The economic might of NYC doesn't much influence life in Hartford-New Haven-Waterbury.
They removed St. Tammany Parish from New Orleans MSA, it still owes all of its amenities to New Orleans' existence.
I can believe it's overstated but it's also next to literally the most powerful city on the globe.
Components
Merced: 290,014
Modesto: 551,275
Napa: 134,300
San Francisco - Oakland Division: 2,785,963
San Francisco - San Francisco Division: 1,537,618
San Francisco - San Jose Division: 256,018
San Jose: 1,938,524
Santa Cruz: 264,370
Stockton: 793,229
Vallejo: 448,747
SAN FRANCISCO CSA POPULATION: 9,000,058
Population under Previous Population: 9,482,708
Change: -482,650
Losses: Santa Rosa Metro Area (-482,650)
They removed St. Tammany Parish from New Orleans MSA, it still owes all of its amenities to New Orleans' existence.
I can believe it's overstated but it's also next to literally the most powerful city on the globe.
New Haven owes its amenities to Port of New Haven and Yale. Hartford owes its amenities to the Connecticut River, Tobacco Fields to the immediate north, state government/capitol, and insurance agencies.
A real tie needs to be drawn as to how being 2 /2.5 hours from NYC benefits most of CT today.
CSA’s are getting a bit absurd. Bordering on useless. Cleveland, a City of 368,000 apparently has suburbs from the PA state line all the way to nearly Toledo, and basically the whole state of CT is some sort of metro area.
I’m also confused how anyone gained counties with the prevalence of remote work you’d think that would drive down supercommutes.
Lol, Cleveland still has a small MSA (even if I'm reading the first post right and they added Ashtabula???) And now at the same time has damn near half Ohio in its CSA.
BTW, of course btownboss got Cleveland on his mind (even though I kinda agree with you smh)
WASHINGTON CSA Components
Baltimore: 2,835,672
Cambridge: 32,726
Chambersburg: 156,902
Easton: 37,932
Hagerstown: 302,510
Lake of the Woods: 37,991
Lexington Park: 209,450 (absorbed Calvert Co., which used to be in the Washington Metro)
Washington - Arlington Division: 3,136,707
Washington - Frederick Division: 1,339,600
Washington - Washington Division: 1,788,876
Winchester: 146,455
WASHINGTON CSA POPULATION: 10,024,821
Population under Previous Population: 9,968,104
Change: +56,717
Losses: Madison Co. (-14,000)
Gains: Cambridge μ (+32,726), Lake of the Woods μ (+37,991)
Correction: Please note that I found 1 error in my previous synopsis that was causing my numbers to be off. It turns out that Madison County was removed from the Washington MSA and I did not catch that.
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