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It looks like Seattle, Minneapolis, Portland and Denver look like are all pretty much true blue throughout. Just looking at various maps. You don't seem to get any red areas until the exurbs.
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It looks like Seattle, Minneapolis, Portland and Denver look like are all pretty much true blue throughout. Just looking at various maps. You don't seem to get any red areas until the exurbs.
East King County (Bellevue/Redmond/Issaquah/North Bend) trended Red for a long time and was well known as a Republican haven and represented in congress by Republicans in that congressional district (WA-8) from the 1980's to the late 2010's. It flipped to blue in 2018 by a very narrow margin, so a similar trend to parts of Orange County, CA. Still Republicans have a pretty strong presence in the east side suburbs of Seattle and down into the Kent/Auburn valley.
East King County (Bellevue/Redmond/Issaquah/North Bend) trended Red for a long time and was well known as a Republican haven and represented in congress by Republicans in that congressional district (WA-8) from the 1980's to the late 2010's. It flipped to blue in 2018 by a very narrow margin, so a similar trend to parts of Orange County, CA. Still Republicans have a pretty strong presence in the east side suburbs of Seattle and down into the Kent/Auburn valley.
I looked at that district and it includes a good amount of rural areas crossing the Cascades and into eastern WA: Wenatchee, Ellensburg, Kittitas, Leavenworth, etc. Suburban areas have been trending bluer over the past 2-3 decades but rural America has also been trending redder. So that was also working against the district flipping blue until 2018.
The Atlanta suburbs are definitely trending blue. The state as a whole is still Purplish-red but according to an article that NBC posted, “The reality is that the vote in Georgia has moved considerably in the last dozen years, and behind that move is a massive set of swings to the Democrats around Atlanta. In fact, comparing 2008 to 2020, seven of the 10 counties that swung most heavily to the Democrats in the entire country were in metro Atlanta (https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/mee...-n1259089).” The next couple of elections are going to be interesting.
When I moved to Georgia in the 90s, Gwinnett County was over 90% white and very republican. Now, it's 32% white and blue as the population went from 350K to 1 million. Similar trends across the metro Atlanta counties.
When I moved to Georgia in the 90s, Gwinnett County was over 90% white and very republican. Now, it's 32% white and blue as the population went from 350K to 1 million. Similar trends across the metro Atlanta counties.
Indeed. Look at my other posts. I included some data about Gwinnett a couple of pages back.
Obviously not the whole state is D+70 like Boston but the fact not a single precinct (Eg 1 polling location) (typical 1500-3000 people blocks) that Trump broke 60% is remarkable. Massachusetts isn’t ultra super blue, it’s has a remarkably consistent political geography. Tennessee, the state with the highest raw margin for Republicans in 2020, still has two Dem congressmen because there are very blue areas of the state. Mass hasn’t elected a Republican congressman since 1994.
There is only one Democrat held district in Tennessee today, the 9th based in Memphis. After the 2020 census the Nashville area was reconfigured to split the blue leaning urban core into three different red districts that all have the majority of their population in conservative suburban or rural counties. Although Republican margins may be narrowing a little in the most diverse and fast growing suburbs, pretty much the entire metro area outside Davidson County is solidly red.
Having lived in both the Boston metro and now the NYC metro, they both have some bands of conservatism. In Boston, as others have already called out, it's typically the South Shore and South Coast areas. In NYC, it's the South Shore of Long Island and the coastal areas of NJ (Monmouth & Ocean counties, mostly). Not sure what it is about the marine areas and voting red, lol.
As an overarching statement, the Boston suburbs felt more liberal than the NYC suburbs (in some cases, significantly so). Though we need to be careful about the term suburb, with Cambridge & Somerville the most liberal parts of MA (if not the entire east coast) and technically suburbs, but more realistically play the same role to Boston that Brooklyn does to Manhattan.
Comparing 'true' suburbs, you have very liberal towns like Montclair, Westport, and even Port Washington (in Long Island) that would correspond to Boston suburbs like Concord, Lexington, and Belmont, all of which would be very liberal by national standards. But NYC does seem to have more Trump-y suburbs, which in Boston is mostly limited to south of the city (or farther up into NH).
In NJ, for example, you may have liberal towns (i.e. Ridgewood) next to much more conservative ones (Midland Park, for example). Whereas in Boston there tends to be less town-to-town variation and the changes are more subtle between larger areas (Metro West, for example, tends to be leafy & liberal over an area the size of all of Bergen County). That may well be a function of NJ just being much more densely populated in the suburban areas, though.
Will also chime in on Dallas, where I lived for 10 years. Predictably, the most liberal parts are within the city of Dallas, but it's a large area so there are definitely some conservative areas too. When I left in 2013, the suburbs were uniformly conservative (it had been said at the time that Plano was the most conservative suburb in the US), but I get the sense that is turning more purple in spots today.
Having lived in both the Boston metro and now the NYC metro, they both have some bands of conservatism. In Boston, as others have already called out, it's typically the South Shore and South Coast areas. In NYC, it's the South Shore of Long Island and the coastal areas of NJ (Monmouth & Ocean counties, mostly). Not sure what it is about the marine areas and voting red, lol.
As an overarching statement, the Boston suburbs felt more liberal than the NYC suburbs (in some cases, significantly so). Though we need to be careful about the term suburb, with Cambridge & Somerville the most liberal parts of MA (if not the entire east coast) and technically suburbs, but more realistically play the same role to Boston that Brooklyn does to Manhattan.
Comparing 'true' suburbs, you have very liberal towns like Montclair, Westport, and even Port Washington (in Long Island) that would correspond to Boston suburbs like Concord, Lexington, and Belmont, all of which would be very liberal by national standards. But NYC does seem to have more Trump-y suburbs, which in Boston is mostly limited to south of the city (or farther up into NH).
In NJ, for example, you may have liberal towns (i.e. Ridgewood) next to much more conservative ones (Midland Park, for example). Whereas in Boston there tends to be less town-to-town variation and the changes are more subtle between larger areas (Metro West, for example, tends to be leafy & liberal over an area the size of all of Bergen County). That may well be a function of NJ just being much more densely populated in the suburban areas, though.
Will also chime in on Dallas, where I lived for 10 years. Predictably, the most liberal parts are within the city of Dallas, but it's a large area so there are definitely some conservative areas too. When I left in 2013, the suburbs were uniformly conservative (it had been said at the time that Plano was the most conservative suburb in the US), but I get the sense that is turning more purple in spots today.
The coastal areas on the west coast also tend to be more conservative
The coastal areas on the west coast also tend to be more conservative
Not so much for California. Central Coast is mostly liberal, and even the coast north of SF is mostly liberal (Mendocino, Arcata/Eureka...)
The reddest part of Cal is definitely within Central Valley, including, well, Redding .
Even in Northeast, coastal Maine is mostly liberal, and most of MA coast (including Cape Cod) is liberal. Jersey Shores is definitely a different world politically, as is the Delaware coast down to Maryland outside of Rehoboth Beach / Lewes.
Not so much for California. Central Coast is mostly liberal, and even the coast north of SF is mostly liberal (Mendocino, Arcata/Eureka...)
The reddest part of Cal is definitely within Central Valley, including, well, Redding .
Even in Northeast, coastal Maine is mostly liberal, and most of MA coast (including Cape Cod) is liberal. Jersey Shores is definitely a different world politically, as is the Delaware coast down to Maryland outside of Rehoboth Beach / Lewes.
Minor quibble on Cape Cod, by the more populated areas where people live year round (Barnstable, Hyannis, etc.), it's actually pretty conservative. The wealthy summer areas - Truro, Welfleet, Woods Hole, Chatham, etc. are the liberal areas, but those are liberal because they are well-to-do vacationers & retirees from Boston & NYC. Same can be said for Maine as well, the upscale touristy areas (Camden, Bar Harbor, Kennebunkport) pull from similar demographic pools as Cape Cod, but the year round local population in the outlying coastal areas are similarly conservative. Not always Trump Flag conservative, but that's more due to the general New England aesthetic of minding your own business.
The Jersey Shore you're 100% correct - it leans very conservative up and down the coast, with the exception of a few bubbles. Even on LBI, where you can't buy a place for less than $1.5M, it's not uncommon to see Trump flags all over the place.
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