Predictions: Georgia turns blue next election? (Atlanta: credit, construction jobs, construction)

[JPD]

Originally Posted by suprascooby22

On thing is for sure, who ever we run will have more experience than the Community Organizer in Chief did when he won!

How original.

[waronxmas]

Originally Posted by wxjay

I find this particularly interesting because, not only do people's attitudes change with time but so do political philosophies and party platforms.

Not too long ago (up to the 1950s) the majority of blacks voted for Republicans (Dwight D Eisenhower enjoyed overwhelming black support for this elections). The Democratic Party was a "block" across the southern states with their support of segregation and other anti-civil rights laws. The industrial northern states and much of the west was pro-Republican territory up until the FDR presidency. In fact, in RI, as an example, Republicans controlled the legislature and much of the governorship (along with other aligned parties like the Whigs) through much of the 19th century and into the first part of the 20th century.

To say that 30, 40, 50 years from now that the Republican or Democratic party will be what it is today is simply foolish.

Furthermore, a previous argument (perhaps you made it or someone else, I forgot) mentioned that with the influx of transplants from the north, the state would turn more blue. I may see this in terms of social issues. However, have people ever wondered what is making people leave the "glorious" Northern states and heading to states like Florida, Texas, Arizona, and Georgia? Things like lower taxes, lower cost of living, better weather, etc. Who is to say that these people coming here suddenly want to transform Georgia into a Massachusetts or a New York? Maybe these people are ESCAPING that? That is certainly a possibility.

There is no denying that a lot of conservative northerns and westerns have made their way down to the big southern cities, but the largest majority of northeastern and western transplants to the Atlanta area has been African-Americans for quite some time now. Not trying to make this into a racial thing, but for the last few election cycles 9 out of every 10 African-Americans have tended to vote for Democractic candidates...in the last cycle it was 9.9 out of every 10. Given that fact and the fact that not all white northerns who move here are conservative, not to mention the hundreds of thousands of asians and latinos that also move here also trend Democratic, you can see where this is going.

[waronxmas]

Originally Posted by WriterDawg85

That doesn't even make any sense, given the context.

LOL, exactly. Seeing how he won and all.

P.S. This convo should head back to Georgia and off of national politics before Uncle Greg layeth the smack down.

[ampatriot005]

Originally Posted by waronxmas

LOL, exactly. Seeing how he won and all.

P.S. This convo should head back to Georgia and off of national politics before Uncle Greg layeth the smack down.

So did Carter and well...

[suprascooby22]

Originally Posted by waronxmas

There is no denying that a lot of conservative northerns and westerns have made their way down to the big southern cities, but the largest majority of northeastern and western transplants to the Atlanta area has been African-Americans for quite some time now. Not trying to make this into a racial thing, but for the last few election cycles 9 out of every 10 African-Americans have tended to vote for Democractic candidates...in the last cycle it was 9.9 out of every 10. Given that fact and the fact that not all white northerns who move here are conservative, not to mention the hundreds of thousands of asians and latinos that also move here also trend Democratic, you can see where this is going.

Your assuming that these minorities vote in large numbers which just isnt the case. Many of them came out to vote for Obama but that doesnt equate to large gains for Democrats in the South in upcoming elections. Meaning unless their is another Obama type candidate out there you wont see some huge uptick in minority voting. Also unless a blanket amnesty is granted many of the Latinos and Asians you speak of will not be eligible to vote.

[waronxmas]

Originally Posted by suprascooby22

Your assuming that these minorities vote in large numbers which just isnt the case. Many of them came out to vote for Obama but that doesnt equate to large gains for Democrats in the South in upcoming elections. Meaning unless their is another Obama type candidate out there you wont see some huge uptick in minority voting. Also unless a blanket amnesty is granted many of the Latinos and Asians you speak of will not be eligible to vote.

You assuming a lot here too. 1.) That African-Americans won't show up to the polls like they did in 2008. 2.) That a large amount of Latinos and Asians in metro Atlanta aren't citizens (a very big assumption).

With that said, the Republican party in Georgia has about another election or two of dominance before their time is up...unless they start trying to get more of the "minority" vote. I won't hold my breath on that one.

[waronxmas]

Originally Posted by ampatriot005

So did Carter and well...

Well, about half of the national Democratic party turned on Carter in '80. I don't see that happening in 2012. Nor do I see the Republicans running a Ronald Regan type candidate.

[suprascooby22]

Originally Posted by waronxmas

Well, about half of the national Democratic party turned on Carter in '80. I don't see that happening in 2012.

If they have any sense at all it will be 90% of Dem's turning on Obama!

[waronxmas]

Originally Posted by suprascooby22

If they have any sense at all it will be 90% of Dem's turning on Obama!

LOL. I'll burn my Che Guevara shirt and get a Ronnie Regan cap if that happens.

[RainyRainyDay]

Originally Posted by Bullbear

Seriously? The answer is: Almost no one - on either side. There are plenty of congresspeople who never read the bills.

The reason people are opposed is that they understand, at its core, you cant save money by adding more people to an entitlement program. It simply defies common sense - no matter how clever the spin.

What defies common sense, to me, is Americans who believe that universal healthcare is impractical, despite the fact that every civilized country has it. Reminds me of the old tale of the mother watching the regiment marching and exclaiming "Everyone's out of step except for my son, John!"