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Old 03-11-2013, 03:21 PM
 
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Does Hip Hop culture contribute to the destruction of young Black Youth in America? It seems that many young Americans(especially young black males) idolize and look up to rappers who perpetuate negative stereotypes they portray like materialism, solving every problem with violence, degrading females, not valuing education, homophobism, etc. Is Hip Hop destroying the young Black Youth of this country?
It's the chicken in the egg dilemma.

 
Old 03-12-2013, 12:44 PM
 
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The Hip-Hop of today cannot be defended. Hip-Hop today is destructive, ugly, hurtful, damaging, just anti-decency and respect. People can talk all day about how Hip-Hop used to be. That era is not what this discussion is about. Today is something entirely different. The lyrics today are atrocious. I wish people would get the courage to say enough is enough.

Spot on. It is very degrading to Black women and teaches young Black youth that the 'gansta' lifestyle is worthy of emulation. About every other song has Ho or the n word. This is not positive or even music, it is trash.
 
Old 03-12-2013, 12:50 PM
 
Location: Cumberland County, NJ
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Spot on. It is very degrading to Black women and teaches young Black youth that the 'gansta' lifestyle is worthy of emulation. About every other song has Ho or the n word. This is not positive or even music, it is trash.
Especially a lot of mainstream hip hop songs nowadays.
 
Old 03-12-2013, 01:29 PM
 
Location: East Memphis
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Hip Hop culture mixed with a lack of parental guidance is the problem, not necessarily the music. However, the message that is portrayed in a lot of hip hop music is very negative which can give young people the wrong perspective on life if that perspective is not shaped by strong parental guidance.
 
Old 03-12-2013, 01:32 PM
 
Location: East Memphis
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Boys and girls being raised without their Fathers and Mothers is contributing to the destruction of the young Black Youth in America. This 30+ year experiment of Fathers walking out thinking the kids will be o.k. with just Mom, and Mothers walking out thinking the kids will be o.k. with Grandma has failed massively. Kids need to be raised by both parents who created them. Raised as in from birth to young adulthood to get a solid foundation. Regarding Hip-Hop, it has become complete garbage. Garbage is toxic. That is Hip-Hop today. It is not even worth defending at this point.

I agree
 
Old 03-12-2013, 03:27 PM
 
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Hip Hop is simply the manifestation of a cultural statement made years ago, black people are pissed, often enough by what they see as an ill defined monster of disdain, (white culture) and seeing as how that plays into the "we'll do our own thing" mindset it serves to set apart a large segment of the American populace from what many would call the "mainstream".

It began with the African Identity notions among blacks in the sixties, the clothing, speech, the newfound "attitude", Black Panthers, and Malcom X, Bobby Seale, Huey Newton. All those angry faces looking into the purported anti black culture that was dominating the direction of American domestic policy. Government created ghetto slums, actually a type of "reservation" for blacks and the rest of the nations poor were rising up from the remnants of the emancipation promise of equality. When you are disinvited to the party by geographical segregation, economic segregation, social segregation, and educational segregation, you just might feel like letting off the steam that boils up in such a situation. Gangsta rap, hip hop, pants down around your knees, a silly ass infatuation with sports celebrities, an open disdain for knowledge, uncivil behavior, violent behavior, and a general all around loser mentality would seem to be just the thing to "show em", show em how much we are bad, Bad, BAD, but, I can understand it.

When American blacks became aware of their true status as "anything but African" they turned from the African notions to what they now saw as their new social challenge, to reinvent the "face" of black America. It was in this turning that the older generation passed on and the task was left to a more angry type of black citizen. With a prison population way beyond their representative numbers in society the black youth, upon their release, took on that prison culture of racial separateness and a new identity was formed, the "gangsta". The over the top need to be looked upon as bad guys was evident in everything ghetto black. Those black people who did finish high school and go on to college, had no identity of their own, they simply melded into the American mainstream and forgot the ghetto altogether.

We have yet to establish a sane policy with regard to the native populace of America, after four hundred years of persecution these people don't expect much from this government, their social cousins the blacks now feel the same way. I figure this entire black/white question is going to be the one feature of American life that may become a permanent chasm of social and economic indifference........
 
Old 03-18-2013, 05:58 AM
 
Location: Louisville KY
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Do your research. Not all artist are in the shadow of some white ceo. Most of them have their own label. But even Disney had rappers on their label, Electra Records. KMD was one group from which my favorite rapper, the supervillian of rap; M. F. DOOM camme from. That man has some nice music, he doesnt sing about gettin money or ******* and hos. Matter of fact he makes fun of the industry. "Not by the face but by the name they knew him. Racist against rappers, they all look the same to him." Or "Eat rappers like part of a complete breakfast, they rhymes aint worth the weight of they cheap necklace." Listen to his songs filled with metaphores and similes. Nas doesnt sing about what lil wayne does. You think you can compare Queen Latifa and Nikki Manage? Beastie Boys and Eminem. Hell even Eminem doesnt sing about "gangster" issues all the time or dis we forget about songs like Toy Soldiers or Mosh. Mosh was hip-hop. You have to pick and choose certain songs and artist. I just got in to Jedi Mind Tricks. I also like Black Eyed Peas and the Roots. Its funny how people like to genralize rap and think its all the same or a certain artist only sings about a certain thing. Even DMX mixes it up. Let somebody say all rock is the same and you'll have a flame war about how RHCP cant be compared to Lamb Of God.
 
Old 03-21-2013, 01:44 AM
 
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Does Hip Hop culture contribute to the destruction of young Black Youth in America? It seems that many young Americans(especially young black males) idolize and look up to rappers who perpetuate negative stereotypes they portray like materialism, solving every problem with violence, degrading females, not valuing education, homophobism, etc. Is Hip Hop destroying the young Black Youth of this country?
Sure, but who's allowing them to watch?
 
Old 03-21-2013, 10:32 AM
 
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Does Hip Hop culture contribute to the destruction of young Black Youth in America? It seems that many young Americans(especially young black males) idolize and look up to rappers who perpetuate negative stereotypes they portray like materialism, solving every problem with violence, degrading females, not valuing education, homophobism, etc. Is Hip Hop destroying the young Black Youth of this country?

Blacks are destroying themselves. Listening for enjoyment and idolizing are way different. I used to listen to "gangster rap" in the 90s as a young child and I was often dazzled by the new words and vulgar lyrics but my parents always kept me in reality.

Since the black family is notoriously broken, the lack of family structure, no importance put on education and lawlessness is the root cause of destruction of the black youth.
 
Old 03-21-2013, 12:35 PM
 
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I think it's not Hip Hop/rap music but something deeper. It only is a scapegoat. Think about it the reason why most of these guys are violent and criminal is because they are being targeted by a multi-billion dollar drug business, and being offered not just subsistence but the promise of wealth. They are being sold the idea that they can drive a Mercedes, wear expensive jewelry, and be a big shot, even though they have done none of the hard work required. They are basically trading high risk for high rewards.

The other side of the drug trade coin are people who have become addicted to the drugs and have no way to pay for them. They are desperate to feed their addiction and end up breaking in to steal property, and even resort to violence in order to pay for more drugs. These people are trading other people’s money and property and other people’s safety to feed their own habits.
The vast majority of violence and crime in the Black community is linked, in one way or another, to narcotics trafficking. However, when you look at the who is really spearheading this plague, you will find very few Black faces at the top. Most are Latinos of European origin (essentially South American White people).
http://listverse.com/2009/10/02/top-10-most-powerful-drug-lords/

These organizations target minority communities because they see that they can exploit the poverty there to their advantage. Young Black men are recruited mostly as expendable soldiers with a short life expectancy. They are perfect so long as they are poor, undereducated, and willing to take big risks. However, the techniques used to advance the trade in the White suburbs is often more adapted to that environment. (Less violence and lower risk) I see the fault both with the organizations and with the individuals who join them on any level. So long story short it's not Hip Hop.
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