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Old 05-18-2015, 12:33 PM
 
Location: Where I'm At
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This tops my list of the dumbest post I've read here on CD.

I mean, how bored, jealous, shallow, and ignorant someone has to be to suggest such thing? WOW!
You actually think I'm jealous? (I'll 'fess up to the bored, shallow, and ignorant parts; heh heh heh .) Here's an interesting fact – not opinion, FACT: When you Google “secret confessions I hate being a mom,” “I hate being a dad,” “I hate being a parent,” “I regret having children,” “I regret having kids,” and “conspiracy of silence in motherhood,” you will come across literally thousands of brutally honest and sometimes heartbreaking confessions, comments, and stories from mothers and fathers who actually have the guts and the b@lls to admit that although they love their children with the intensity of a thousand suns, they secretly hate being mothers and fathers, and they secretly wish they could go back in time and choose NOT to become mothers and fathers at all, under any circumstances.

By stark contrast, when you Google “secret confessions I regret not having children,” “I regret not having children,” “I regret not having kids,” “I regret not becoming a mom,” “I regret not becoming a mother,” “child-free women who regret not having children,” “child-free women who regret not having kids,” and “child-free women who regret not becoming mothers,” you'll find practically nothing – not even a blip – related to child-free women and men who secretly regret not having children.

So, based on those two facts alone, I'd say more likely than not, if anyone's jealous of anyone, parents are jealous of child-free people. How else do you explain thousands of online confessions from moms and dads admitting they secretly regret having children, yet no online confessions – not even a blip – from child-free people admitting they secretly regret NOT having children ?
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Old 05-18-2015, 12:46 PM
 
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So, based on those two facts alone, I'd say more likely than not, if anyone's jealous of anyone, parents are jealous of child-free people. How else do you explain thousands of online confessions from moms and dads admitting they secretly regret having children, yet no online confessions – not even a blip – from child-free people admitting they secretly regret NOT having children ?
Because, for obvious reasons, it's not socially acceptable for someone to go around saying openly that they regret having children (would you like to hear YOUR parents say that?). But nobody is fazed to hear a childless (child-free, whatever) person say that they don't regret not having children. It's not a secret that you need to make online confessions about. I know quite a few older people who wish they had had children. They just don't go around "secretly" blogging about it.
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Old 05-18-2015, 12:47 PM
 
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OP: You seem very interested in adoption. I know that sometimes 1/2 the couple wants to adopt and the other 1/2 do not. A lot of people don't have what it takes to adopt simply because of the process. It is called "the adoption maze" for a reason. There is no reason to go into it. There is a specific area for that at C-D where people can get "real life" knowledge rather than reading web pages which are a joke. We have adopted a child, a baby with Down syndrome from a private agency because in trying to adopt an older child, mild to moderate disabilities, any race, ages 7 - 10, we gave up and decided to go private US special needs. So, suggest you go to the Parenting-Adoption to learn the realities involved.

Child-free is child-free and frankly, I found it extremely cold-hearted to make a separate classification for those that were not able to have children, "childless".

Let's face it, OP seems envious of Mother's and Father's Days, interested in adoption, ah..........................I do think deciding to have or not have children is a BIG decision and I'm guessing there is some envy on both sides. (Flu season or norovirus with the kids always got me wondering why people have kids!)
You actually think I'm interested in adoption? Adoption?!! I have 5 nieces, 5 nephews, 3 great-nieces, and 8 great-nephews (total: 21). And of those 21, 15 of them (11 boys and 4 girls) are under the age of 18. So, adoption? No. Child-free awesome aunt who babysits for free? Yes. As a child-free awesome aunt, I get to choose which kids I will babysit (I have 15 to choose from), I get to choose when I will babysit them, I get to choose how long I will babysit them, and I get to return the kids back to their parents (praise Jesus! ) when I'm finished babysitting them... for free .

If more women would just choose to become child-free awesome aunts – who babysit for free – rather than choosing to become mothers, maybe we wouldn't have 402,378 children living in foster care right now. So your claim that I'm “interested in adoption” is absolutely false. I'm interested in reducing the number of children who end up in foster care due to pi$$poor moms (and I use the term mom loosely) who have/had no business giving birth to children. Clearly, not all women are cut out for motherhood; at least child-free women have the guts to admit that they're not cut out for motherhood .

Lastly, according to the dictionary (childless - definition in the American English Dictionary - Cambridge Dictionaries Online (US)), childless is defined as: without children. Child-free is defined as: used to refer to people who choose not to have children. So, if you find the word childless to be “extremely cold-hearted,” you'll have to take that up with the dictionary, not me.
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Old 05-18-2015, 01:16 PM
 
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Because, for obvious reasons, it's not socially acceptable for someone to go around saying openly that they regret having children (would you like to hear YOUR parents say that?). But nobody is fazed to hear a childless (child-free, whatever) person say that they don't regret not having children. It's not a secret that you need to make online confessions about. I know quite a few older people who wish they had had children. They just don't go around "secretly" blogging about it.
I actually had this conversation with my mom last year. (My parents, who have been married for almost 55 years, raised 8 children – 4 boys and 4 girls.) Long story short, my mom said that 4 kids (2 boys and 2 girls) would have been much easier to raise than 8 kids. I totally agreed with her and told her that I respected her even more as a mother because admitting something like that takes supreme courage. My mom rocks !

Lastly, why would a child-free person ever regret not having children? According to Adoption and Foster Care Analysis and Reporting System (AFCARS) fiscal year 2013 data, there were 402,378 children in foster care in the U.S. alone. Of all foster care adoptions, single females actually accounted for 27% of them according to AFCARS fiscal year 2013 data. That's more than a quarter of all foster care adoptions. Unmarried couples accounted for 3% of foster care adoptions, married couples accounted for 67%, and single males accounted for 3%.

In addition to hundreds of thousands of children in foster care, child-free people are surrounded by even more children: nieces, nephews, great-nieces, great-nephews, cousins with children, friends with children, co-workers with children, neighbors with children, boyfriends/significant others with children, Big Brothers Big Sisters of America, Boys and Girls Clubs of America, Girls Inc., Project Mentor, Mentoring Matters, One For Me Mentoring Program, STARRY Inc., and thousands of other mentoring and youth development programs involving children. There's absolutely no shortage of children in this world, so there really would be no reason for child-free people to ever regret not having children – in my opinion. Children are everywhere. Everywhere!
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Old 05-18-2015, 02:23 PM
 
Location: Europe
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Actually, disposable diapers and cloth diapers are not that different in terms of their overall impact on the environment, although for different reasons.

https://alumni.stanford.edu/get/page...ticle_id=56347

Differences make big differences. That study which pops up from your link is plentiful criticized because of the fails it has.

I havent heard of people who would wash cloth diapers one at the time. Usually they are washed with other clothing what almost every family does so there is no separated water wasting. Also not every household have a dryer, they can produce solar energy etc. choices, not so simple. Also environmental and skin friendly washing agents are available. It is how aware one would be from beginning till the end.

disposable diapers: 1,5 tons diapers waste /baby
it takes 300-500 years to "decompose"

Only USA 28 billion diapers / year
Supex toxic waste

plastic (also producing this plastic and chemicals)-chemicals (cancer-liver problems, skin problems, toxic for animals)-transporting- need to build a whole factory/factory line with machines just for them etc. All this ollution which omes from the factory, it is not energy free. Also going to a shop to get those tons of dispoable diapers if made by car etc. Diaper factory would always buy study to show it is "good". They want their moneys from clients.
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Cloth diapers:

30 cloth diaper/ all babies/ all years
You can choose all organic made materials, there are many options how to choose best type of cloth diaper system. Some cloth diapers are not even made without a "plastic layer" , there are big markets in these too. If you sew then yourself or even grow your organic material yourself! There is not just one type of cloth diaper or one way to produce or use them. There are super organic ways and less organic ways.

All people don't use dryers for clothes at all but if they use , these go with others too.

If cloth diapers are made of organic fabrics and wool which also comes beside other fabric factory, making them brings less problems. Also when they are washed with other laundry there is no more water or soap need than otherwise. Also washing agents are able to be nature friendly. Clothing diapers also decompost faster and leaves no chemicals into ground especially if made of organic materials. You can burn it away or what ever. Cotton is not only material which is available organic. Bambu, hemp, wool, etc.

Also they can be made only by using fabric -string systems no need to add anything extra materials like buttons or they can be made of organic materials too.


Best for the baby is to go naked

It is about what I said earlier, from beginning till end. But no matter how you twist it, if there are 3 babies in a family there is 30 cloth diapers for all kids against 4,5 tons of disposable diapers.. Which one would be more environment friendly, huh?

It is not that we should disappear or produce zero waste. Organic waste and reusable waste is always better choice. Also it is always less waste if uses cloth diapers at home but disposable when visiting. Every diaper counts.
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Old 05-18-2015, 02:48 PM
 
Location: Guadalajara, Jalisco, Mexico
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I do not think it necessary. We the childless can celebrate our freedom any day, any time we wish.
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Old 05-18-2015, 02:59 PM
 
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I do not think it necessary. We the childless can celebrate our freedom any day, any time we wish.
And we parents celebrate daily the joys, sorrows, frustrations, and triumphs that parenthood brings. It's not all fun and games, but on balance it's a truly great experience. And then there's the rich reward at the end -- grandchildren! All the fun, none of the work.

I respect the decision of those who choose not to have children, but they will never truly understand what they're missing.
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Old 05-18-2015, 03:13 PM
 
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Default No one to pick your retirement home

Mothers and Fathers day are to celebrate the sacrafice they make for their children. I don't see the reason for child free day unless you are going to have a day that you honor them for the things they had to give up to not have children (like someone to pick your retirement home).
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Old 05-18-2015, 03:14 PM
 
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And we parents celebrate daily the joys, sorrows, frustrations, and triumphs that parenthood brings. It's not all fun and games, but on balance it's a truly great experience. And then there's the rich reward at the end -- grandchildren! All the fun, none of the work.

I respect the decision of those who choose not to have children, but they will never truly understand what they're missing.
We know exactly what we're missing – thanks to the Internet. All we have to do is Google “secret confessions I hate being a mom,” “I hate being a dad,” “I hate being a parent,” “I regret having children,” “I regret having kids,” and “conspiracy of silence in motherhood” to find out exactly what we're missing .

Hate being a mom | Secret Confessions | Secret Confessions

https://heronsister.wordpress.com/20...out-mothering/

Motherhood...is there a conspiracy of silence about it and why? | Mumsnet Discussion
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Old 05-18-2015, 03:21 PM
 
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We know exactly what we're missing – thanks to the Internet. All we have to do is Google “secret confessions I hate being a mom,” “I hate being a dad,” “I hate being a parent,” “I regret having children,” “I regret having kids,” and “conspiracy of silence in motherhood” to find out exactly what we're missing .

Hate being a mom | Secret Confessions | Secret Confessions

https://heronsister.wordpress.com/20...out-mothering/

Motherhood...is there a conspiracy of silence about it and why? | Mumsnet Discussion
No, you will just find out what some anonymous people think. You won't find out what YOU would miss about being a mom. It's like the Matrix. As Morpheus said, you have to experience it to understand it.
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