THE Holocaust? (Representatives, legal, premium, March)
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I'll say it - IGNORANCE. But with a reason - the U.S. was heavily involved in WWII and WWII is given a huge amount of time in any high school history class, along with the Holocaust. It is used as a huge example of man's inhumanity to humanity and it is still within the direct memory of many Americans.
No other genocide has directly or indirectly touched Americans to that degree. That's not to say they are not worthy of note. The press itself has done badly at defining various military actions as genocides as though it is a bad word. It is highly political, true.
It should not be taken personally - I'm sure that in Africa, they could not care less about what Hitler did to white people. Do I think worse of them that they have their own terrible situations that many are living through even as we speak? As an individual I can't do a lot to persuade our government to recognize something as genocide and take "appropriate" action...I don't even know what that really is.
All I know is that we pay attention to and remember the things that affect us the most. And to a certain degree that depends on what we learn in our textbooks and what we see in the news - pretty much how history has always been.
Perhaps you're not aware(as you're post suggests), but the Roma were slaughtered by the Nazis in the course of WWII. Understanding this of course negates your explanation.
Yes, it was the biggest, most important and tragic Holocaust ever. The Holocaust was the systematic, bureaucratic, state-sponsored persecution and murder of 6 million Jews by the Nazi regime and its collaborators. It was a genocide. Some historians use a definition of the Holocaust that includes the additional 5 million non-Jewish victims of Nazi mass murders, (other "undesirable" peoples including Poles, the Roma, and homosexuals), bringing the total to about 11 million.
There was another holocaust - the Ukrainian Holocaust or Holodomor, one of two genocides and man-made famines perpetrated by the Communists in the Ukrainian Soviet Socialist Republic in 1932 and 1933, that killed up to 7.5 million Ukrainians.
Genocide is the general term for this atrocity, whereas holocaust specifically refers to Hitler’s extermination of the Jews.
What distinguishes The Holocaust from previous genocides was its efficiency.
The Nazis employed engineers to figure out how they could maximize their hourly body count. This horrific idea progressed from shooting people into open graves they dug themselves, to asphyxiating people in moving trucks, and finally culminated in the vile gas chambers at Buchenwald, and Auschwitz.
No it wasn't. It was the Native American and African holocaust.
No it wasn't. It was the Native American and African holocaust.
Those don't count because there is no way to make big money from them. It is interesting history to read all about what all of these high minded Holocaust organizations were doing while the genocide was actually taking place. Pretty much what the world was doing during the Rwanda Holocaust. Nothing.
Perhaps you're not aware(as you're post suggests), but the Roma were slaughtered by the Nazis in the course of WWII. Understanding this of course negates your explanation.
The reason for the slaughter of people during WWII (including 35 million Russians and 10 million Chinese) was made very clear by the Nazi's and is the primary factor in almost all wars: land, money, slave labor. The Nazi's were all about Lebensraum and anyone who owned land was killed and their wealth was confiscated. It was that simple.
Yes, it was the biggest, most important and tragic Holocaust ever. The Holocaust was the systematic, bureaucratic, state-sponsored persecution and murder of 6 million Jews by the Nazi regime and its collaborators. It was a genocide. Some historians use a definition of the Holocaust that includes the additional 5 million non-Jewish victims of Nazi mass murders, (other "undesirable" peoples including Poles, the Roma, and homosexuals), bringing the total to about 11 million.
Just to be accurate here, The Holocaust was not just genocide. Jews made up less than half the victims but they were the biggest ethnic group. The total number of victims was close to 13 million people.
The Holocaust deserves the elevation to a proper noun. Does the OP think it doesn't?
No it wasn't. It was the Native American and African holocaust.
If your trying to vilify whites with your post don't forget that whites were no worse than any other people in history. Every race and culture had its negative things going on. And don't forget it was whites that put an end to the slave trade business.
[quote=richrf;44353151]The reason for the slaughter of people during WWII (including 35 million Russians and 10 million Chinese) was made very clear by the Nazi's and is the primary factor in almost all wars: land, money, slave labor. The Nazi's were all about Lebensraum and anyone who owned land was killed and their wealth was confiscated. It was that simple.[/QUOT
that is a complete distortion of what WW2 was about.
Just to be accurate here, The Holocaust was not just genocide. Jews made up less than half the victims but they were the biggest ethnic group. The total number of victims was close to 13 million people.
The Holocaust deserves the elevation to a proper noun. Does the OP think it doesn't?
Lets keep things within a realistic boundary as to the number of deaths. The most official report of the number of people killed in all camps in Poland was made by the Red Cross and they had inspected all camps during the whole course of the war. The Red Cross reported that around 271,000 people died in the camps and of those deaths 40% were jews. Now I for one will believe the official Red Cross report before I believe the MSM or other people who are trying to generate hysteria.
The reason for the slaughter of people during WWII (including 35 million Russians and 10 million Chinese) was made very clear by the Nazi's and is the primary factor in almost all wars: land, money, slave labor. The Nazi's were all about Lebensraum and anyone who owned land was killed and their wealth was confiscated. It was that simple.[/QUOT
that is a complete distortion of what WW2 was about.
It's exactly what WWII was about and in fact it is what all of history is pretty much about. You name a time period and I'll give you the Empire Builder. As I said, the Third Reich was All about Lebensraum. The Nazis were thugs like the British before them, the French before them, the Spanish before them, the Mongols before them, the Romans before them, the Macedonian before them, etc, etc, etc. All slaughtered for land and wealth because it was an easy way for them to gain great wealth. Glad to give you a history lesson.
Lets keep things within a realistic boundary as to the number of deaths. The most official report of the number of people killed in all camps in Poland was made by the Red Cross and they had inspected all camps during the whole course of the war. The Red Cross reported that around 271,000 people died in the camps and of those deaths 40% were jews. Now I for one will believe the official Red Cross report before I believe the MSM or other people who are trying to generate hysteria.
OH my GOD! How dare you question the "6 million Jews"! You must be a "Holocaust Denier"! I'm gonna tell the AD£ and the $PLC all about you. You're obviously just an Anti-Semite, so go take your HATE elsewhere...
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