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Old 01-11-2016, 09:04 PM
 
Location: Dothan AL
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I think more so than parenting practices, the presence of supervision is the most important thing.
Agree. Sometimes, it is one sole incident where the child feels separate and inferior. Sometimes it is something even the best parents with good intentions fail to realise; is some ways. it almost seems like luck.
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Old 01-12-2016, 07:44 AM
 
Location: Philadelphia
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In the recovery community, of course, our standard response (and the best one) is that, "some die so that others may live". It is the truest thing I've heard or thought about addicts dying. And the most helpful.

I pretty much just leave it at that. "Keep it simple, stupid".
Reminds me of my Cousin and her sisters. Very true...Her death may have saved her two sisters lives.
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Old 01-12-2016, 08:11 AM
 
Location: Austin
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How do you feel when an addict passes?
Drug addiction is a Disease. When a young person dies prematurely from any disease it is terribly tragic, and the disease of drug addiction is no exception.
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Old 01-12-2016, 12:17 PM
 
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I think about the possible reasons that lead them to being an addict in the first place and then I don't think about it too much longer.

I've noticed two visceral responses from others when they discover an addict has died: 1. Anger and the blaming the person for 'throwing their life away' or the overly compassionate response where the responsibility of the addict's death is everyone else's fault but the addict's.

What's strange is many of the people reacting to that particular addict's death didn't know them personally, ie celebrities.
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Old 01-12-2016, 02:31 PM
 
Location: Leeds, UK
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My grandmother's second husband was an alcoholic. He was genuinely very nice. Even long after they divorced, he helped with the garden and fixed things. He really did go out of his way to do whatever he could to help other people.

He just couldn't kick the habit, and was, a few years ago, found dead in an apartment.

A waste of human life. I think everyone is salvageable. Some people just don't have the means to help themselves.
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Old 01-15-2016, 12:30 PM
 
Location: in my imagination
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As un PC as it sounds "they made their bed now they are laying in it" Crass I know but I really do not believe as some would say that it is a disease.... At some point in their life THEY chose to start using drugs, THEY chose not to quit (just like overeating, drinking & smoking)
Sorry, but you need ALL of your brain cells to get by in this world & they chose not to....
Ugh they don't always choose, like the story of aa girl who her stepmother who was a addict introduced opiates to her step-daughter when she was 12 and then pimped her out to supply her own habit, 10 years later the girl has been a opiate addict since because she is phyically addicted and emotionally crushed.

Better not to judge until you have walked in someone's shoes.........
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Old 01-17-2016, 10:44 PM
 
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Drug addiction is a Disease. When a young person dies prematurely from any disease it is terribly tragic, and the disease of drug addiction is no exception.
Well, if drug/alcohol addiction is a disease, then gambling addiction is a disease. And food addiction is a disease. And addiction to sex is a disease. And addiction to watching TV shows & movies is a disease. And addiction to Starbuck's coffee is a disease. And addiction to I-phones is a disease.

Moderator cut: Language Addiction is not a disease, it's addiction - pure & simple. It's preventable. Don't get addicted in the first place - simple.

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Old 01-24-2016, 07:47 AM
 
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Nothing, zero, zip. We have been too kind of people that abuse drugs and alcohol. The warnings against such behavior have been well known for 50 years and yet a segment of society just does not care. So off you go, no more taxpayer money wasted on them and direct the funds to good, hardworking non-addicted citizens that add to society.
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