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Old 03-27-2016, 06:03 PM
 
Location: my Mind Palace
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It is hard to feel bad for someone that willingly puts themselves in dangerous situations and gets in trouble.
I think we all feel like this to an extent.
The man in the coal mine is a great example and how could you not have empathy for him? The same goes for the porn star but they both knew it was a job that came with risks.

How about a skydiver or a mountain climber? They both know that those hobbies can kill them and they take every precaution not to die but it happens.

How about the criminal that is breaking into houses to feed his family? How about the one stealing to support his drug habit? How about the criminal that is stealing just for fun? They all have a chance of getting caught by the Police and being thrown in jail or being caught by the gun toting homeowner who shoots them dead.

Who do we feel bad for? Here on city data I think most believe it is a good thing when a criminals luck finally runs out.


Everyday people willingly tempt fate. The key is not being forced into a dangerous situation. If they are exploited it is easy to feel badly for them.
Leaving your house comes with risks, does that mean we should never empathize? Or do we always operate based on who "deserves" to be cared about? If you examine yourself, truly examine, you will find that you are not deserving of charity, kindness or love, either. We have ALL made "bad life choices." We have all done stupid things. Just because some dodged the bullet doesn't mean they didn't run the gauntlet in the first place.
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Old 03-29-2016, 09:30 AM
 
Location: Sun City West, Arizona
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Further evidence that our culture has 0 value for human life.

Let's look at this scenario from a bigger picture. This a person with basically no options. They're homeless, for starters. Homeless people struggle to find decent jobs because they don't really have the resources to put themselves together enough for a job. Yeah, there are services, but I don't really believe anyone who hasn't been homeless gets to judge the homeless too critically. You can't even imagine what that would be like. To not know for sure where you'll sleep; to not know if you'll eat tomorrow? To not know if you'll be alive tomorrow.

The fact is, prostitution and eventually pornography were a place where someone like this could get a job. So they took it. Now they're hurt, and people won't feel bad.

But let's say she didn't take the job and remained homeless. People still won't feel bad for her because 'she should just get a job.'

Our culture is disgusting. Plain and simple. There's a reason we're the most heavily medicated society on the planet. We're all miserable and no one cares.
I think we have to realize that in the sex industry there are 2 types of participants. One type are those who are forced into it...and that's mostly prostitution related. The second type are those who choose to go into it.

I certainly have a great deal of sympathy for anyone forced into "the life". They are purely victims.

As to those who choose to go into it because they are in hard times...well, okay...I have some sympathy for them while they're in hard times. But there is such a thing as working your way out of hard times. I have no idea about how much money all porn stars make, but some make a lot of money, and they CHOOSE to continue despite the risks. They could use some of that money to go back to school part-time, if not full-time. They could go into a job training program (at least in some places). But no, they continue to do what's easy...and let's face it, ------- is pretty easy.

There's a difference between having a degree of empathy for anyone who is ill...and I have that almost regardless of the life they have led. But that's different than emotionally buying into someone's misfortunes, particularly those who bring on their own problems through repeated cycles of bad decision making. And to those who "love" everyone, you really "love" no one. Saying, "I feel so sorry for sick porn stars" does nothing of any value, improves no one's life, changes nothing. Talk is cheap. If you feel so strongly about it, what are you doing about it?
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Old 03-29-2016, 04:12 PM
 
Location: Portland, OR
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Is anyone surprised that a City-Data thread with a moral message is going to lean to the side of "you get what you get for the choices you make". That said.. a 10 person orgy as a first timer... nine scenes later she discovered she was HIV positive? Really. That would be like later that same week. Methinks we are being manipulated with a manufactured story to push moral outrage buttons. Again... this is C-D, is anyone surprised?

This country has 300 plus million men, women and children... what is the worth of any one of them? Human life has been pretty worthless since the invention of antibiotics. It will shock some of you, hopefully not to death, but maybe to a point quite close to it... it surely will seriously flabbergast some of you to learn that there are women who would participate in a 10 person orgy even if cameras were not running and there wasn't going to be a $1200 check when it was all over. When such a woman hits financial hardship it will be easier for such a woman to wind up in sex work. For a different woman it will be IMPOSSIBLE.

She would die, and many do, before doing something like have sex with several or even just one man for money. Why are we judging either one? We might instead judge a socio-economic system that pits men and women against poverty in the midst of so much plenty. I do.
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Old 03-30-2016, 09:36 AM
 
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Do i have sympathy for her? Yes absolutely. Do i feel bad for her? No, not really. Anyone with half a brain knows the risks involved in this type of work. While she in no way at all deserves this, it was a very possible outcome when she entered the business. However with that said, there is no way to know she actually got it from the business. We don't know if she was still escorting off camera, or what she was doing in her personal life. There is a very real possibility this has outcome has nothing to do with the actual regulated side of the industry.

All of our jobs have risks and possible outcomes, some more dangerous that others and this is something we have to weigh prior to taking a job.
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