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Old 04-06-2016, 08:42 PM
 
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The use of African-American came about in response to certain whites who complained about the existence of certain black organizations and events. They usually would ask "why can't we have white this, and white that? The answer was that whites do, but it's usually based on ethnicity. While people would frown on an amusement park having a "white day", no one would have a problem with them having a Polish-American, or Italian-American Day. Since black people lost their original ethnicity during slavery, race has to double as ethnicity. The use of African-American was supposed to portray blacks as an ethnic group.

As for black supplanting Negro (ironically, negro is the Spanish word for black), and Colored, this was all about stopping black people from being ashamed of their color. Black had always been used to some degree, but many were uncomfortable with it. The 60s use of black was meant to be provocative, and in your face. "Say it loud; I'm Black And I'm Proud!!!!! Guess what, it was very effective. There are still many problems in the black community, but in 2016, very few black people are ashamed of their color. It was effective to the point that in the 70s, some white ethnic groups that had kind of hung their heads in America, noticed what black folks had done, and found a new pride in their own origins. The Polish especially come to mind.

For what it's worth, black is what I use.
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Old 04-06-2016, 08:59 PM
 
Location: Laguna Niguel, Orange County CA
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The only problem that I personally have with this, is that my ancestors don't just come from Africa; they also come from North America and Europe. By calling myself an African-American, I would not be recognizing where other portions of my heritage come from. I just prefer "American" over anything.
Why then do you think President Obama self-identified as only African-American on the Census?
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Old 04-06-2016, 09:47 PM
 
Location: San Francisco Bay Area
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From Chimamanda Ngozi Adichie’s, “Half of a Yellow Sun”:

my point is that the only authentic identity for the African is the tribe…I am Nigerian because a white man created Nigeria and gave me that identity. I am black because the white man constructed black to be as different as possible from his white. But I was Igbo before the white man came.
I used to hang out with Nigerians (among other foreign students) and Igbo and Yoruba (both from Nigeria) did not consider themselves the same, other than that they were Nigerian.
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Old 04-07-2016, 02:39 AM
 
Location: Mid-Atlantic
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Black is a horrible term,you have a thousand years of cells inside your body and you are all those people, you can't escape your ancestry.
Im sorry you have a total disconnection from your ancestors in african culture that is extremely sad.
Why is white a good term? I'm not white. Toilet paper is white. Albinos aren't even white.

A thousand years? Modern man has been around a lot longer than that.
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Old 04-07-2016, 04:48 AM
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Why is white a good term? I'm not white. Toilet paper is white. Albinos aren't even white.

A thousand years? Modern man has been around a lot longer than that.
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Old 04-07-2016, 06:06 AM
 
Location: Richmond VA
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I've never understood this, and it might have to do with me being fairly young (still in my 20s)...but why do a lot of people prefer to be called African American over black? I prefer black myself because I'm not African, I've never been to Africa, I don't speak any African languages, I wouldn't know what ethnic tribe I originate from, etc. so I feel totally disconnected from the average black African that I've encountered. Which is ironic, because I'm probably more "African" than most who prefer to be called AA. Can someone explain the justification for choosing "AA" over "black"?
I struggle with this also. I grew up in a pretty diverse area, and black people called themselves black. Now I'm feeling a little pressure to use AA, but I"m not sure what black people think of that!

I get that most 'black' people are shades of brown, so it isn't a very good descriptor.

Many African Americans have roots in this country that go deeper than mine. On my mother's side I'm only a third generation american, yet i don't get any pressure to identify myself as Swedish American.
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Old 04-07-2016, 07:13 AM
 
Location: City Data Land
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I read a poll a couple years back that showed somewhere around 60% preferred "Black", 30% had no preference and only about 10% preferred African American.

What's funny is watching PC Whites bend over backwards to ALWAYS use African American. I love to call Black people Black in front of them because I know it drives them nuts. Still, they can't quite accuse me of of what they want to accuse me of.
Apparently not. The results of the poll prove you wrong.
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Old 04-07-2016, 07:23 AM
 
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I prefer "African American". But then, I think of others who are born in this country who have roots elsewhere, and know that I would willingly questions their use of self-identification terms such as Filipino American, Nigerian American, Korean-American, etc.

So If I'm bothered by these labels which might convey a willing division in acknowledging one's self identity, then why am I not bothered by "African American?"

In terms of the other word, my skin isn't black and so I don't like being labeled that way.

In the end, the word "American" will suffice, and is honestly the most appropriate for me.
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Old 04-07-2016, 07:49 AM
 
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Why then do you think President Obama self-identified as only African-American on the Census?
Because that's his decision.

And no one can answer for the Pres but the Pres himself.

So, please don't try to use the poster's point to turn this into some racial/political jab at Obama, hence derailing the thread.


Stay focused!!!
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Old 04-07-2016, 07:52 AM
 
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I've never understood this, and it might have to do with me being fairly young (still in my 20s)...but why do a lot of people prefer to be called African American over black? I prefer black myself because I'm not African, I've never been to Africa, I don't speak any African languages, I wouldn't know what ethnic tribe I originate from, etc. so I feel totally disconnected from the average black African that I've encountered. Which is ironic, because I'm probably more "African" than most who prefer to be called AA. Can someone explain the justification for choosing "AA" over "black"?
So what does this poll tell you?


In my experience, "African-American" has always been a term for external consumption, rather the way Japanese, Chinese, Koreans, et cetera, use "Asian."
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