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Old 03-23-2018, 05:32 PM
 
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I doesn't look like you did. Let me ask you, what do you think needs to be done?

Oh right, you think all of these school shootings are false flags with state actors.
1. Enforce the laws and regulations on the books. Had this been done, there would've been no shooting.

2. Do away with schools as gun-free zones. Had this been done, someone would have shot back. Or there would have been no shooting. People don't go around shooing places they can be shot back at. That's why there's no mass shootings at courthouses, jails, or police stations.

What do YOU think needs to be done?

Tougher gun laws? Just ask Chicago residents how well that works.

 
Old 03-23-2018, 05:36 PM
 
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1. Enforce the laws and regulations on the books. Had this been done, there would've been no shooting.

2. Do away with schools as gun-free zones. Had this been done, someone would have shot back. Or there would have been no shooting. People don't go around shooing places they can be shot back at. That's why there's no mass shootings at courthouses, jails, or police stations.

What do YOU think needs to be done?

Tougher gun laws? Just ask Chicago residents how well that works.
First of all less stop parroting nonsense. No Chicago doesn't have the roughest gun laws.

http://https://www.washingtonpost.co...-gun-violence/

Second there was an armed guard on campus in case you have forgot.

The only thing you said that I agree with was the law should have been enforced in the first place.
 
Old 03-23-2018, 05:58 PM
 
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First of all less stop parroting nonsense. No Chicago doesn't have the roughest gun laws.

http://https://www.washingtonpost.co...-gun-violence/

Second there was an armed guard on campus in case you have forgot.

The only thing you said that I agree with was the law should have been enforced in the first place.
Chicago has a tremendous problem that is somehow always ignored. Why is that? Why is it never part of the discussion?

There been more than 450 shootings since January 1, 2018, in Chicago. Just this year.

But never a discussion, don't bring it up, don't talk solutions.

Let's instead praise a bunch pf teens who are parroting talking points, playing with emotion and have no plan except "murder/guns bad." Media darlings, coached and prepped, dressed and primped, flown around the globe.

If they care SO MUCH about people being shot ... why don't they GO TO CHICAGO???
 
Old 03-23-2018, 06:01 PM
 
Location: Berwick, Penna.
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First of all less stop parroting nonsense. No Chicago doesn't have the roughest gun laws.

http://https://www.washingtonpost.co...-gun-violence/

Second there was an armed guard on campus in case you have forgot.

The only thing you said that I agree with was the law should have been enforced in the first place.
It was the busybodies and do-gooders -- worshippers of ever-expanding structure and bureaucracy -- who sowed the dragon's teeth by creating a small class of simmering misfits who can't easily be identified and, even if so, are often protected by a legal structure geared to the concerns of the over-sensitized.

The only real remedy is to allow the responsible majority to opt out, via the privatization of all education; the so-called "liberals" who made their bed will just have to lie in it. The world has a generous supply of dead-enders and losers, and more and more of them are going to emerge as things continue to deteriorate.
 
Old 03-23-2018, 06:02 PM
 
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Chicago has a tremendous problem that is somehow always ignored. Why is that? Why is it never part of the discussion?

There been more than 450 shootings since January 1, 2018, in Chicago. Just this year.

But never a discussion, don't bring it up, don't talk solutions.

Let's instead praise a bunch pf teens who are parroting talking points, playing with emotion and have no plan except "murder/guns bad." Media darlings, coached and prepped, dressed and primped, flown around the globe.

If they care SO MUCH about people being shot ... why don't they GO TO CHICAGO???
I'm sorry I didn't know this thread was now about Chicago. I know some folks are obsessed about Chicago. Would you like to make a thread about Chicago?
 
Old 03-23-2018, 06:06 PM
 
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It was the busybodies and do-gooders -- worshippers of ever-expanding structure and bureaucracy -- who sowed the dragon's teeth by creating a small class of simmering misfits who can't easily be identified and, even if so, are often protected by a legal structure geared to the concerns of the over-sensitized.

The only real remedy is to allow the responsible majority to opt out, via the privatization of all education; the so-called "liberals" who made their bed will just have to lie in it. The world has a generous supply of dead-enders and losers, and more and more of them are going to emerge as things continue to deteriorate.
So you are saying that these people who kill people are not to blame for their actions but are somehow victims of a Liberal society?

What happened to that liberatarian/Conservative concept of personal accountability? Then again looking at are current right wing government I'm not surprised it's dead.

BTW, do you have a plan for how the poor and lower middle class will pay for your grand plan of privatized education?
 
Old 03-23-2018, 06:10 PM
 
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BTW, do you have a plan for how the poor and lower middle class will pay for your grand plan of privatized education?
What makes you think that private education will be any more expensive than public education? If anything, we have mountains of evidence that indicates the private sector operates more efficiently than the public.

What is so wrong with expecting people to provide for themselves?
 
Old 03-23-2018, 06:14 PM
 
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What makes you think that private education will be any more expensive than public education? If anything, we have mountains of evidence that indicates the private sector operates more efficiently than the public.
Can you or anyone provide an explanation as to how every parent or guardian can afford schooling for their kids under a privatized system?

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What is so wrong with expecting people to provide for themselves?
Nothing but it doesn't match up with reality. We will probably see even more kids running around the streets during school hours.
 
Old 03-23-2018, 06:23 PM
 
Location: Berwick, Penna.
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So you are saying that these people who kill people are not to blame for their actions but are somehow victims of a Liberal society?

What happened to that liberatarian/Conservative concept of personal accountability? Then again looking at are current right wing government I'm not surprised it's dead.

BTW, do you have a plan for how the poor and lower middle class will pay for your grand plan of privatized education?
What I'm saying is that the likes of Nickolas Cruz are not "victims" of this senseless worship of power, authority, and centralization -- they are the end product of it!

At no other time in history have the well-functioning majority of our sons and daughters been more capable of educating themselves -- and in that process, become more questioning of the authority which has turned more of our workplaces into sheep pens, while leaving more of the wolves out there in the streets.

And "democracy" too often turns into a collection of wolves and sheep "voting" on what to have for dinner.

And BTW, employers will readily provide enough hard technical education to identify what needs to be done, and the responsible individuals' interest in an unbiased study of the arts and humanities has never been greater; It's the NEA's spoon-fed propaganda that a lot of us reject.
 
Old 03-23-2018, 06:29 PM
 
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What I'm saying is that they are not a "victim" of this senseless worship of power, authority, and centralization -- they are the end product of it!

At no other time in history have the well-functioning majority of our sons and daughters been more capable of educating themselves -- and in that process, become more questioning of the authority which has turned more of our workplaces into sheep pens, while leaving more of the wolves out there in the streets.

And "democracy" too often turns into a collection of wolves and sheep "voting" on what to have for dinner.

And BTW, employers will readily provide enough hard technical education to identify what needs to be done, and the responsible individuals' interest in an unbiased study of the arts and humanities has never been greater; It's the NEA's spoon-fed propaganda that a lot of us reject.
Employers barely offer to train potential employees for positions they want to fill now. It should be obvious right now that they have no social obligations or responsibilities. There purpose is to make money for share holders.
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