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Old 06-17-2020, 03:17 PM
 
Location: Myrtle Creek, Oregon
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I ran into an individual who first said he/she could not wear a mask at work because it violated his/her constitutional rights, specifically the fifth amendment. Later he/she said it violated his/her right to privacy. I asked several different ways how wearing a mask correlated to any of that. The response was "you can't mandate I wear a mask and that is my statement".

I am SO confused what the heck he/she was talking about. Does anyone have any ideas because I am super curious. My guess is that he/she may have lowered intelligence but maybe there is something I don't know.

I'm not seeking people's opinions on whether or not they wear a mask just trying to grab my hands around this argument that was not explained above.
Psychos have rights too. Just shun her. Don't talk to her, don't do business with her, don't hire her. It's her right to be nuts, it's your right not to associate with fruitcakes.
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Old 06-17-2020, 03:25 PM
 
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Anyone who doesn't wear a face mask simply DO NOT WANT TO. Constitution, my arse. If your local county is ordering its residents to wear one, then do it. If not, don't do it.

If anything, this pandemic has shown that the USA has too many government layers: federal, state, and local, and they're all telling us to do something different. So I listen to my local county.
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Old 06-18-2020, 01:34 AM
 
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Anyone who doesn't wear a face mask simply DO NOT WANT TO. Constitution, my arse. If your local county is ordering its residents to wear one, then do it. If not, don't do it.

If anything, this pandemic has shown that the USA has too many government layers: federal, state, and local, and they're all telling us to do something different. So I listen to my local county.
My secret decoder ring says this is poor leadership at the Federal level, not too many layers of government. I shouldn’t need to rely on some semi-competent public health person in my county to properly manage a national pandemic. Keeping the transmission rate below 1.0 needs to be managed at the federal level.
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Old 06-18-2020, 12:17 PM
 
Location: Alexandria, VA, USA
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Husband has a heart condition and takes anti-coagulin drugs, and has to for the rest of his life. He cannot get a minor cut or he bleeds all over the place. Has to notify even a dentist that he is on these meds.

So does this mean because of his medication he is at less of a risk for blood clots from the COVID?
I am on Eliquis myself for atrial fibrillation. If i catch COVID-19, clots will not form as rapidly as they might have, or they might not form at all. However, I could still succumb to COVID-19 for other reasons. Although COVID-19 presents differently in people, I like to think that I will be helped by my anticoagulants.
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Old 06-18-2020, 05:30 PM
 
Location: Texas
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You have almost NO rights when you're on the property of a private business.
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Old 06-18-2020, 05:42 PM
 
Location: Chicago
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The mayor of Chicago is trying to force people to wear masks on the lakefront. I don't see how she can legally do that since it's not private property. I refuse to wear a mask outside and I don't see this being enforced.
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Old 06-18-2020, 05:51 PM
 
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So, I have a question.
American citizen is a free person within a free country. His rights, liberties and freedoms are guaranteed by constitution. One of those rights is freedom of movement from a point to a point. Unless, it is violating boundaries of another freedom - freedom of personal and private property.

So exactly what legal right does a "store", or any other business, have, to implement their own decisions on who has right to enter and who does not? I am pretty sure, those store owners don't even really own the property, they most likely rent it. Then, there is landlord. Does landlord have such legal right?

I am more curious about LEGAL aspects of A business making decision, limiting US citizens in their constitutional rights? I mean, next, there will be store imposed limitations based on what? Height? Skin color? Ethnicity? Haven't we seen this before? No such and such allowed?
A store can require you to wear a suit and tie to enter if it wants.

I cannot believe so many people here have no concept of places setting dress codes to enter. It is like the only places you ever went to eat is McDonald's or Applebees, or never heard the "no shoes, no shirt, no service" lol.
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