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Old 06-24-2009, 11:43 AM
 
Location: Victoria TX
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The unanswered question, in fact the unasked one, is, Who are the people who voted for Ahmadinejad, presumably a very large number and perhaps a majority? What are they doing amid all this disorder? What has happened to their lives?

Is Iran a better place now than it was a few years ago? Will it be a better place in the future than it was when we were demonizing it?
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Old 06-24-2009, 12:10 PM
 
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The unanswered question, in fact the unasked one, is, Who are the people who voted for Ahmadinejad, presumably a very large number and perhaps a majority? What are they doing amid all this disorder? What has happened to their lives?

Is Iran a better place now than it was a few years ago? Will it be a better place in the future than it was when we were demonizing it?
I will let the Iranians sort this one out for themselves.
Pretty big voting irregularities...like if McCain had beaten Obama type irregularities.
Not sure what our "demonizing" Iran has to do with their own internal power struggle. Heck, our own press demonizes (and rightly so at times) our own activities too. (See Iraq War, failed govt. oversight of mortgages etc.)

I don't recall armed gangs of Bush and Gore supporters roaming Florida killing dozens of people during the recount there...so perhaps Iran deserves a little rough treatment in the media.
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Old 06-25-2009, 07:26 PM
 
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This is what a country looks like when the people have no way of changing a dictatorship. That's why we should never give up our firearms!!
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Old 06-26-2009, 12:12 PM
 
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I would be for a less encumbered, more empowered CIA to take care of the mullahs, using their best judgment of course.
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Old 06-26-2009, 12:27 PM
 
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I would be for a less encumbered, more empowered CIA to take care of the mullahs, using their best judgment of course.
Does the word "sovereign" mean anything to you? Or do you think the entire planet is a colony of the USA?
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Old 06-26-2009, 12:55 PM
 
Location: A Nation Possessed
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I would be for a less encumbered, more empowered CIA to take care of the mullahs, using their best judgment of course.
I would be for staying out of their business. What right have we, sitting over here in our infinite wisdom, to take any action? Neither side wants or needs our meddling.
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Old 06-26-2009, 12:57 PM
 
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Does the word "sovereign" mean anything to you? Or do you think the entire planet is a colony of the USA?

Well, no (not in the case of a rogue State) and no. But the "planet" might be better off if it was...
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Old 06-26-2009, 03:22 PM
 
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Well, no (not in the case of a rogue State) and no. But the "planet" might be better off if it was...
In the 1850s, the US was a rogue state, one of a tiny handful that still allowed slavery. (There were only two in all the Americas, and none in Europe.) Should somebody's CIA have come in here and started assassinating people? We're still a rogue state, one of very few that still uses capital punishment.
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Old 06-26-2009, 03:30 PM
 
Location: Brooklyn
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I would be for a less encumbered, more empowered CIA to take care of the mullahs, using their best judgment of course.
Was the CIA using its best judgement in earlier Iranian involvements (Mossadegh in 1953, for instance)? Unfortunately, the terms "CIA" and "good judgement" are more often mutually exclusive than not. If we could count on that agency to apply some common sense now and then, I'd agree with you. But as it stands...the CIA should worry about its own house for a change.
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Old 06-26-2009, 03:49 PM
 
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Just send them the guns and ammo.They'll figure who to eliminate!!
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