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Old 06-28-2009, 01:13 AM
 
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In the 1850s, the US was a rogue state, one of a tiny handful that still allowed slavery. (There were only two in all the Americas, and none in Europe.) Should somebody's CIA have come in here and started assassinating people? We're still a rogue state, one of very few that still uses capital punishment.

Only in one's revisionist dreams.
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Old 06-28-2009, 01:22 AM
 
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This is probably a totally Politically Incorrect statement......but sometimes I wonder if ALL of the mid east would ever be happy with peace. It's as though they survive only through discontent. Maybe the old saying that people are happier with a common enemy is true in this area. If there isn't a problem, they seem to create one. It's like street gangs who want control for no other reason other than causing friction because they are bored.
That same statement could be applied to the USA. As a country, we have a pretty horrific past with intervening in countries currently at peace, merely to serve our own ends. A quick look at the history of US foreign policy can really open your eyes as to where a lot of the anti-US views originated from. I am by no means saying ALL of our interventions were unjust, but I can understand countries being weary of the US.
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Old 06-28-2009, 06:49 AM
 
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Only in one's revisionist dreams.


Look, everybody --- We have a Slavery Denier. Unless I misinterpreted your well-thought-out, thoroughly researched, fully explained 5-word quip.
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Old 06-28-2009, 12:10 PM
 
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Look, everybody --- We have a Slavery Denier. Unless I misinterpreted your well-thought-out, thoroughly researched, fully explained 5-word quip.

You did not. Stay on topic.
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Old 06-28-2009, 12:21 PM
 
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Voicing our support has about as much influence as putting your baseball cap on upside down to start a rally.

Not at all ;otherwise the Iranian governamnt wouldn't holer about it so much. It wp0orked in Poland when they knew the wrold wqas supporting them and would not support or sanction waht the governam,nt was doing.That is why inetnet is often restricted in these type situations by governamnts like Iran.
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Old 06-29-2009, 01:31 PM
 
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"Well, if the CIA wants to kill some people and attribute that to the government elements, then choosing women is an appropriate choice, because the death of a woman draws more sympathy," Ghadiri said.

Though the video appeared to show that she had been shot in the chest, Ghadiri said that the bullet was found in her head and that it was not of a type used in Iran.

Further, he said, members of the international news media have failed to report on people setting banks and buses afire or attacking other people. "The only things they show are the reactions of the police," he said.
Iranian envoy: CIA involved in Neda's shooting? - CNN.com

Well, here we go, enjoy the ride.
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Old 06-29-2009, 01:57 PM
 
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I'm surprised he didn't blame the Jews.
Hey, you don't have to even leave this country to find people with nuttier views than that. We have lots of conspiracy nuts around.

At least that guy was making the comment for political posturing so he actually has a rational motive for making the insinuation instead of just being mentally skewed.
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