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Old 10-15-2009, 05:33 AM
 
Location: Bradenton, Florida
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That's right, I didn't watch it. After all, the people here have already claimed that it was impossible to do that sort of thing.

 
Old 10-15-2009, 05:46 AM
 
Location: North Texas
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Great post, thanks.

My daddy alway said to do the job properly you need the right tools. It could be done without hammer but the job can be done much better and faster with a hammer.

So the best tool offered for self defense is a firearm.
I have a 12 gauge to level the playing field. As fit as I am, I am a 136 pound female. I would have no chance against most male attackers, self-defense classes or not.
 
Old 10-15-2009, 05:53 AM
 
Location: Bradenton, Florida
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Don't sell yourself short.
 
Old 10-15-2009, 12:58 PM
 
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I went to highschool with a kid that claimed Ninjas could catch bullets, dodge point blank shotgun blasts and throw a throwing star through the trunk of a 2foot thick oak tree etc. There are some interesting embellishments floating around out there.

Not to discount the benefits of martial arts but my aikido instructor friend would NEVER beat me if I got to use a .45 in the fight and he'd laugh at the very thought.

I suggest people look at the effectiveness of Japanese samuri swords vs. M1 garand in history.
 
Old 10-15-2009, 01:44 PM
 
Location: Bradenton, Florida
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The Japanese didn't use swords, for the most part, in the war.

However, if you're going to look at the effectiveness of other weapons vs. the gun, I'd suggest you look at Little Big Horn or Shaka Zulu.
 
Old 10-15-2009, 02:04 PM
 
Location: On the Chesapeake
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The Japanese didn't use swords, for the most part, in the war.

However, if you're going to look at the effectiveness of other weapons vs. the gun, I'd suggest you look at Little Big Horn or Shaka Zulu.

Little Big Horn-trade Henrys and Winchesters plus overwhelming numbers plus home field advantage against tired, outnumbered troopers carrying single shot, prone to jamming Springfields on open ground.
Shaka Zulu-again overwhelming numbers, plus home field advantage, plus a disregard for casualties against single-shot Martinis and a propensity for the British to lose battles and win wars. Like this one:

Battle of Ulundi - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Zulu Wars 1879 - Rourke's Drift, Isandlwana, Chard, Bromhead
 
Old 10-15-2009, 02:06 PM
 
Location: Bradenton, Florida
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The Brits had the Maxim gun...and the Indians didn't all have guns of their own. Some of them perhaps.
 
Old 10-15-2009, 05:04 PM
 
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The Brits had the Maxim gun...and the Indians didn't all have guns of their own. Some of them perhaps.
The Zulu Wars were over by the end of 1879. The Maxim wasn't developed until 1884.
More recent scholarship has pretty much debunked the idea that the Lakota were undergunned at the Little Bighorn. They outgunned, out numbered and out fought Custer. Many of the Lakota were off the reservation and in Montana for one last summer hunt (which is why they had the Henrys and Winchesters-Indian Bureau policy), the smarter ones knew the end was coming.
 
Old 11-01-2009, 12:40 AM
 
Location: somewhere in the woods
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Read the research article from the American Journal of Public Health:

Investigating the Link Between Gun Possession and Gun Assault -- Branas et al., 10.2105/AJPH.2008.143099 -- American Journal of Public Health

Then debate whether such a research will have any effect on government policy or people's attitudes.

why didnt they do that same research in a state like Vermont?
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