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Old 11-06-2009, 05:27 PM
 
Location: Gettysburg, PA
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Hello!

I am just curious to get everyone's thoughts on a touchy subject I suppose. When do we learn to let go with out elderly?

I work at a heart monitoring company and I walk them through how to use it and get everything set up and activated, etc. There are so many people, that IMO, whom do not need to be on this. It's just, there's sooooo much Medicare being wasted on pickling these people to live another day.

There are times I call someone..and they are 95..and living in a nursing home. What's the point? Why does it matter to "have this person live a little bit longer?"..when there are people whom DO have more time and deserve it more.

I've had someone who was 99 and was on the monitor to determine if they needed a ****in pacemaker!! What's the POINT?!!

Here are my thoughts: It's not so much about age. It's about..their overall health. There are times I speak with someone who is like 94 and they are alive and kicking it! They are with it. They are ALL there. They are capable of helping themselves... so shouldn't money be spent more on THOSE people who may have another 10 years left rather than letting someone live for another year---even though they are practically in a coma 24/7?!

Oh, I whole-heartedly agree with you. Usually, its the others (the relatives)who just can't seem to let them go, though I just can't see how they would rather see them live in sometimes pathetic situations (i.e. let's see how many IV lines we can get in this one) rather than just remember them for the way they were when they were healthier. It's quite sad.

I'm all for having optional euthanasia--though, I know that might be a bit extreme. My opinion is that we have all these medications that can help us live long lives, but for some of us, that means we'll end our days in a nursing home perhaps staring insipidiy at the wall, drooling all day. Now--not all of us will be like that, but how can we really know? I don't understand the reasons why--if we are getting to be like that--we cannot just choose to quietly end our own lives with dignity. At least it should be an option. I believe some states such as Oregon already have something like this--hopefully, it will become a more readily available option that other states will adopt.


(caveat: i'm in the middle of writing so i didn't read any of the other posts, so--sorry for giving a cold post, or whatever the slang for it is...is there even a term for it???)
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Old 11-06-2009, 05:30 PM
 
Location: Houston/Heights
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As long as my mind still works, don't pull the plug on me. I don't do all that much now, so the difference may be hard to detect.
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Old 11-06-2009, 05:33 PM
 
Location: Sierra Vista, AZ
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Life should simply be lived--not artificially prolonged. Make room for the next generation. Get out of the way, scoot.
I feel the same I don't get any invasive care. When my time comes I'm ready and I hope it's quick
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Old 11-06-2009, 05:41 PM
 
Location: Houston/Heights
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I feel the same I don't get any invasive care. When my time comes I'm ready and I hope it's quick
Me too. but just because I'm not able to jump around like a spring chicken any more, don't mean I'm done either. As long as I can take care of myself, I'm cool. I don't want to live past that. to go out as a burden to my Loved ones would just add insult to injury. When my time comes, in the far distant future I hope, I'd like to just ease on out under a nice big Oak tree, kick back, and get ready to shake my makers hand. All we do in life, is to prepare us for death.
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Old 11-06-2009, 06:09 PM
 
Location: Sierra Vista, AZ
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Me too. but just because I'm not able to jump around like a spring chicken any more, don't mean I'm done either. As long as I can take care of myself, I'm cool. I don't want to live past that. to go out as a burden to my Loved ones would just add insult to injury. When my time comes, in the far distant future I hope, I'd like to just ease on out under a nice big Oak tree, kick back, and get ready to shake my makers hand. All we do in life, is to prepare us for death.
My 90 year old mother, who has been on her own since my sister became ill, has a new hobby. Once or twice a week she calls one of the hundreds of Nursing Homes in her area of Florida and has them pick her up for a tour. They feed her lunch and bring her home. Best deal since Casino Buses.
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Old 11-06-2009, 08:39 PM
 
Location: Houston/Heights
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My 90 year old mother, who has been on her own since my sister became ill, has a new hobby. Once or twice a week she calls one of the hundreds of Nursing Homes in her area of Florida and has them pick her up for a tour. They feed her lunch and bring her home. Best deal since Casino Buses.
Very Cool. I wish Her the best, and long and happy life.
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Old 11-06-2009, 10:55 PM
 
Location: Colorado
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Many people are not really afraid of death itself, it's the suffering beforehand. I watched my father die a slow, painful death of cancer. He was 53, I was 26 at the time. Now being almost 63 myself I am sorry he didn't go sooner, easier, faster. Not that I wanted to lose him, just lessen his suffering.
Personally I'd like to just drop dead ( some others would like if I did that too)
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Old 11-08-2009, 07:48 AM
 
Location: Houston/Heights
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Watching our loved ones in pain, is the hardest thing to deal with. I would take the pain gladly, to spare my children.
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Old 11-08-2009, 08:48 AM
 
Location: Victoria TX
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Watching our loved ones in pain, is the hardest thing to deal with. I would take the pain gladly, to spare my children.
I referenced my 97-year-old mother above. I should point out that she was never in pain. She was thankful that she never felt any physical pain, right up to the night she died in her sleep. However, what was unendurable to her was her loss of dignity. She was a proud and independent woman, and the thing that destroyed her quality of life was her loss of dignity, when no longer able to care for herself.
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Old 11-08-2009, 08:59 AM
 
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Well once you let government or anyone else decide this then we have to decide what to do about younger people with extensive longer term care and others.I think we will soon be deciding this as the governamnt satrts to make health dscisions by boards anyway with more going on government funded programs.
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