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Old 04-13-2010, 05:00 PM
 
Location: On the Chesapeake
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Pork chop, rice and salad tonight. With a piece of Kandy Kitchen double chocolate fudge as a chaser.
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Old 04-13-2010, 05:59 PM
 
Location: Sango, TN
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"High levels" of copper are levels that would harm a certain percentage of people if they were continuously exposed to such a level over a prolonged period of time. The copper level in a 12-ounce steak was probably the equivalent of touching a penny and licking your finger.

Those are not the risks that we should be concerned about. But unfortunately, they are the ones that are uppermost in media bloat.
I'm not sure what the "acceptable" level of copper in our country, I just know that Mexico has a higher standard.

When Mexico has a higher standard of meat safety than we do, something is wrong.
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Old 04-14-2010, 08:57 AM
 
Location: Richardson, TX
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Here is a link to an article on tainted beef.

U.S. standards on beef are lax, inspector general says - CNN.com
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Old 04-14-2010, 09:54 AM
 
Location: Victoria TX
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Here is a link to an article on tainted beef.

U.S. standards on beef are lax, inspector general says - CNN.com
The tax whiners have forced them to cut their budget for inspections, and then they whine about poor inspections. Or more likely, they tell everyone it's their "personal responsibility" to inspect their own food, and not have a nanny state doing it for them. In fact, if people were "personally responsible", they'd raise their own food. Or, trust honorable people like Monsanto, instead of the dishonorable government, to set and enforce the standards.

It's interesting that this incident happened two years ago, and we are only now hearing about it. The first Toyota acceleration problem was reported in April, 2003. The media is leading us around by our noses.

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Old 04-15-2010, 10:12 AM
 
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The tax whiners have forced them to cut their budget for inspections, and then they whine about poor inspections. Or more likely, they tell everyone it's their "personal responsibility" to inspect their own food, and not have a nanny state doing it for them. In fact, if people were "personally responsible", they'd raise their own food. Or, trust honorable people like Monsanto, instead of the dishonorable government, to set and enforce the standards.

It's interesting that this incident happened two years ago, and we are only now hearing about it. The first Toyota acceleration problem was reported in April, 2003. The media is leading us around by our noses.
Pure ignorance, when put on display as in the above post, is quite a thing to behold.

An average of two people per year have died in accidents attributed to Toyota accelerator problems, but you would think the world is falling.

However, scientific analysis of automobile accidents indicates that CAFE standards (fuel economy standards) cost between 4,000 and 5,000 lives a year, but nobody seems to care. Survivablity in an accident is strongly linked to the weight of the care you are in. CAFE forces lighter cars to operate on streets full of heavier vehicles, and people die from it.

Just like the 2,000,000 or so people every year because of malaria because DDT, which it turn out, is virtually harmless to anything except mosquitos, was banned.
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Old 04-15-2010, 10:43 AM
 
Location: Victoria TX
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Pure ignorance, when put on display as in the above post, is quite a thing to behold.

An average of two people per year have died in accidents attributed to Toyota accelerator problems, but you would think the world is falling.

However, scientific analysis of automobile accidents indicates that CAFE standards (fuel economy standards) cost between 4,000 and 5,000 lives a year, but nobody seems to care. Survivablity in an accident is strongly linked to the weight of the care you are in. CAFE forces lighter cars to operate on streets full of heavier vehicles, and people die from it.

Just like the 2,000,000 or so people every year because of malaria because DDT, which it turn out, is virtually harmless to anything except mosquitos, was banned.
You call it pure ignorance when I say the media is leading us around by our noses, and then you go on your own diatribe about how the media is leading us around by our noses. Umm--OK.

Oh---and where did those heavier vehicles come from if Cafe is forcing us to drive lighter vehicles?
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Old 04-15-2010, 08:40 PM
 
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You call it pure ignorance when I say the media is leading us around by our noses, and then you go on your own diatribe about how the media is leading us around by our noses. Umm--OK.

Oh---and where did those heavier vehicles come from if Cafe is forcing us to drive lighter vehicles?
Factories, son, factories. Automobile and truck assembly lines crank out vehicles that weight up to 60,000# loaded, or more on occasion.

I must have missed the part of your referring to the media. Bloody bad sport of me, eh.

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