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Old 05-22-2010, 09:59 AM
 
Location: Victoria TX
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If you want to anthropomorphize about animals-----

How many of you have ever thought about what it would have been like to be a horse, used by a labor gang, to spend its whole day carrying heavy loads or pulling a plow?

 
Old 05-22-2010, 10:48 AM
 
Location: Texas
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Of course they are part of our family. They are living beings we invited in to live with us (like they had a choice!) and we have an obligation to provide the best care we can. How is that messed up?

What's messed up is saying, "Oh, it's only a dog" and ignoring your responsibility that you took on yourself.
 
Old 05-22-2010, 01:18 PM
 
Location: Near Manito
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If you want to anthropomorphize about animals-----

How many of you have ever thought about what it would have been like to be a horse, used by a labor gang, to spend its whole day carrying heavy loads or pulling a plow?
Turn it around. Maybe horses feel compassion for us, having achieved Buddhahood and accepted their existence -- as most humans have not -- as the illusion it truly is.
 
Old 05-23-2010, 02:40 PM
 
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If you want to anthropomorphize about animals-----

How many of you have ever thought about what it would have been like to be a horse, used by a labor gang, to spend its whole day carrying heavy loads or pulling a plow?
What has that got to do with todays society anthropomorphizing pets? Horses too are sentient beings, they have emotions and people become quite close to horses, they even blanket them for protection. Horses, today, are well taken care of and are part of family too.
 
Old 05-23-2010, 03:08 PM
 
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Yup, I recall an episode of Judge Judy where there was a divorced couple and the ex wife was suing the husband ( joint custody of kids) for taking the family dog to a vet and getting it euthanized.

The ex husband/father stated he had a tough time paying his family's bills and the treatment recommended by the vet cost over $2,500.

Judge Judy was furious that anybody would let costs be a determining factor for a dog's health care. She stated that dog was just as much part of his family as the kids were.

When it comes to pets, Judge Judy sure is irrational and out of touch with the real world !
 
Old 05-23-2010, 03:17 PM
 
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Awe, good for Judge Judy!
 
Old 05-23-2010, 03:29 PM
 
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That's just plain silly. I watched all those shows and never had the slightest inclination to have a dog or any other pet. I would suspect that the majority of my contemporaries woud agree.

Walt Disney never destroyed anything. If there is criticism to be leveled at the corporate behemoth that arose folowing his death, it has nothing to do with things that Mr. Disney created during his remarkable life. He was a creative genius who provided opportunities for countless artists, writers, and technicians while bringing happiness to millions of children around the world.

No, Walt Disney never made me want Old Yeller. I sure had a thing for Annette Funicello, though. Now please don't tell us you're opposed to heterosexual fantasies as some sort of pathology....
My brothers and sisters and I watched Disney every Sunday night for years and none of us did nothing but enjoy each week's show. We grew up on a farm and had animals, not extentions of our family.
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Also, who cares about how people treat their pets? I think that is their business and no one elses. I would rather hang out with my dog than most people I know. He loves me unconditionally.
This seems to be a common thread (no pun intended) with those who put animals before humans. Maybe it's because those who think this way believe they need to be loved and feel they are unworthy. It takes real work to maintain a human relationship, but dogs love regardless. No work there except food and water.
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I find it rather axiomatic that since we "run" the world....and are at the top of the heap so to speak, we think we're much more important than any other being....or any part of nature for that matter. Sounds a bit self serving and egotistical doesn't it ? Nothing else could be as important as us could it ? We're all that and a bag of chips too. I think part of our "evolution" will eventually mean we'll evolve in our thinking enough to conclude with humans realizing that we're all in this together and man, nature, animals etc...are all just as important as each other.


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Yup, I recall an episode of Judge Judy where there was a divorced couple and the ex wife was suing the husband ( joint custody of kids) for taking the family dog to a vet and getting it euthanized.

The ex husband/father stated he had a tough time paying his family's bills and the treatment recommended by the vet cost over $2,500.

Judge Judy was furious that anybody would let costs be a determining factor for a dog's health care. She stated that dog was just as much part of his family as the kids were.

When it comes to pets, Judge Judy sure is irrational and out of touch with the real world !
I've noticed the same many, many times. And she rules on her emotion, not on law most of the time.
 
Old 05-23-2010, 03:35 PM
 
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This seems to be a common thread (no pun intended) with those who put animals before humans.
I think for some of us it's not a matter of all humans, just most. I'd spend 2k on my dog before I'd spend it on a stranger. For that matter, I'd spend 2k on scooter before I'd spend it on a stranger. That's not the case when it comes to family, tho. I'd still spend 2k on my dog, but I'd also spend 2k on a family member if they needed it.

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Old 05-23-2010, 03:42 PM
 
Location: Colorado
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Empty nesters,
kids don't live near,
the peke is part of the family, the baby.
give us a pass, chill......
 
Old 05-23-2010, 04:06 PM
 
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I think for some of us it's not a matter of all humans, just most. I'd spend 2k on my dog before I'd spend it on a stranger. For that matter, I'd spend 2k on scooter before I'd spend it on a stranger. That's not the case when it comes to family, tho. I'd still spend 2k on my dog, but I'd also spend 2k on a family member if they needed it.
There is something very wrong about that.
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