Bill Clinton Killed the Birds & the Bees! (natural, oil, review)
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from http://worldtruth.tv/usda-admits-ext...rops-and-bees/
A Nebraska farmer was apparently complaining that the starlings were defecating in his feed meal. The answer to this conundrum apparently isn’t to cover your feed meal but rather call the USDA and ask them to poison thousands of birds. The USDA complied, apparently agreeing this was a brilliant idea. So they put out a poison called DRC-1339 and allowed thousands of birds to feed on that poison.
Good, starlings are an invasive species that needs to be controlled, yes some got caught up in the drag net, but in the long run they will have less competition from starlings for the natural food.
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The conspiracy theorists are everywhere. After being warned by the state of Illinois to remove his bees, the state comes in and does it for him.
If only Terrance Ingram had complied with the request from the Illinois Agriculture dept, there would have been no reason for the agency to come in take the hives----
While the state claims the removal of the property was due to Ingram's failure to comply with the Department's notice instructing him to burn the affected hives, they have been less than open about why the inspectors came in and took the bees and hives without due process.
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The Invasive Species Act was instated in 1999 during the Clinton administration via Executive Order 13112 in an effort to
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“… prevent the introduction of invasive species and provide for their control and to minimize the
[LEFT]economic, ecological, and human health impacts that invasive species cause.”
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The USDA freely acknowledges and reports the numbers of intentional and unintentional species deaths involved in the implementation of this Act by agents at various level of government via the Aphis and invasiveSpecies.org websites.
The Act was reviewed in 2005, under the GW Bush administration, details of that review are available here for those who are interested.
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if this sort of thing was confined to invasive species only, especially ones that were endangering native species, i'd have a lot more difficulty having an issue with it. if you actually take a close look at the destruction that has been done in this country by invasive species, and the tremendous expenses incurred, it's rather mind-boggling. to take chestnut blight as a single example - this one organism being unintentionally introduced to this country wiped out a magnificent tree that used to comprise 25% of all the the trees on the east coast.
the third link is so over the top that it should be ignored, but the second one is pretty interesting. it tabulates how many critters were killed, intententionally or unintentionally, by wildlife services in FY2009. some of them make sense: ok, 602 norway rats were exterminated by wildlife services in '09. others are more troubling, like the fact that they had to kill over 350 mountain lions in a single year. and why would they have to kill or euthanize 64 American white pelicans? maybe these were involved in an oil spill and couldn't be saved?
it would be interesting to know more of the story behind those figures.
the third link is so over the top that it should be ignored, but the second one is pretty interesting. it tabulates how many critters were killed, intententionally or unintentionally, by wildlife services in FY2009. some of them make sense: ok, 602 norway rats were exterminated by wildlife services in '09. others are more troubling, like the fact that they had to kill over 350 mountain lions in a single year. and why would they have to kill or euthanize 64 American white pelicans? maybe these were involved in an oil spill and couldn't be saved? it would be interesting to know more of the story behind those figures.
I agree. Knowing the details of the unintended kills would help me determine whether the unintentional or seemingly odd kills were for justifable reasons (confirmed attacks or dangerous nuisance encounters, injuries, illness) or if they were misuse of authority or improper planning/implementation. I, for sure, would want to see the back data if any of these kills were endangered, watch-listed, or indicator species.
I wish the 2005 review contained more detailed information about the impacts these activities were having on the protection/recovery of the associated species; i.e. whether it was working at all and doing what they intended. Hard to determine the environmental risks or benefits without accurate data collection. Even if it had no negative impact, if it wasn't having a positive effect on native populations either, then the expense of the program isn't nearly as justifiable.
I just hope that permanent/long-term damage isn't done to indigenous populations accidentally by immediately implementing invasive controls while they were still getting the management and reporting structures organized.
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