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Sorry 'bout that, Chief. I had just got done reading about the solar panel hywy, then saw your post and conflated the two. while my response has its own merits, it's a non sequitor for yours.
In regards building a network of re-charging stations, it's inevitable that it must happen. I have no problems with private capital going into it, but I object strongly to Fed funds doing it. The Build Back More Expensively Bill is just another example of Buddy Capitalism and the incestuous relationship between The Feds and Big Industry.
Solar panel highways went out of fashion a while ago.
Magment, magnetized cement, a German development, is currently being tested in Indiana, and I think Michigan as well.
Basically, a similar tech as a wireless docking station for your phone.
If worthwhile, could begin with one lane for 10 miles every hundred miles on the interstate for supplemental charge and expand as needed.
EV share of November UK market hits 28%. Diesel down to 5%. Diesel has always been more popular in the EU because businesses and the self-employed can reclaim the VAT portion, often 20% of $7-8 a gallon.
Increasing demand for EVs & industrial energy will see Norway's energy surplus fall into deficit in 5 yrs. That will really screw up the European grid which relies heavily on them to equalize load.
And then threre's this corrected forecast of the impact of Germany's foolish plans to rely more heavily on wind power-- While their plan is to use 2% of their land area for wind farms, in fact, they will need 10% to reach their goal. https://wattsupwiththat.com/2021/12/...wind-turbines/
How "Green" is wiping out 10% of your natural habitat?
Increasing demand for EVs & industrial energy will see Norway's energy surplus fall into deficit in 5 yrs. That will really screw up the European grid which relies heavily on them to equalize load.
You do not actually read or understand this stuff before you post it? Or just get a lot of fun out of posting goofy stuff?
Norway Electricity increase will be due to . . . . . . Oil. Yes. Oil Fields. They are switching them to Electric Power.
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Power demand in Norway is expected to grow to 158 terawatt hours (TWh) by 2026, up by 19 TWh from current levels, driven by demand from offshore oil and gas platforms and new onshore consumers, such as data centres, Statnett said in its latest market analysis.
The biggest increase is expected in the southern part of the country, where the most of Norway's power-intensive industries are located, along with new projects such as electrification of the Johan Sverdrup and surrounding offshore fields.
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And then threre's this corrected forecast of the impact of Germany's foolish plans to rely more heavily on wind power-- While their plan is to use 2% of their land area for wind farms, in fact, they will need 10% to reach their goal. https://wattsupwiththat.com/2021/12/...wind-turbines/
How "Green" is wiping out 10% of your natural habitat?
Your math looks a bit (quite a bit) "challenged," there.
Not enough electricity in CA for electrical vehicles
If someone is concerned that the 425 kWh per person per month of electricity generated in California is not enough to power an electrical vehicle fleet, then consider the following data:
kWh per person per month of electricity generated in the following states where natural gas is primary source for electricity
2,366 Alabama
1,856 Mississippi
1,794 Oklahoma
1,780 Louisiana
1,468 Pennsylvania
1,381 Texas
1,321 Arizona
1,071 Nevada
1,041 The Nation
1,000 Georgia
948 Florida
935 Virginia
926 Connecticut
843 Ohio
Of course you could do the same thing for the coal states and the nuclear power states, but we all know California is never going back to coal, and the decision on the Diablo Canyon nuclear plant is now irreversible. Diablo Canyon will be closed in four years.
But California already gets 42.5% of it's electrical power from natural gas in 2019. Natural gas is the primary way to generate electricity in California. Natural gas is the most benign of fossil fuel, and it produces half the carbon dioxide of coal.
But of course, California passed a law in 2018 that all sources of non-renewable energy, including hydropower, nuclear, and natural gas have to be gone by 2045. Not only from in-state generation, but also from any electricity imported from Mexico or other states.
Best I can tell, including Tesla/Panasonic there are currently four EV battery factories in the US.
According to the latest Fact of the Week from the DoE, thirteen new factories have been announced for the US over the next five years.
Coal fired electrical plants generate 1000 grams per kWh, and your average BEV gets 3 miles per kWh.
That means your average BEV generates 33 grams of carbon dioxide per mile using coal fired electricity.
Estimates range from 56,00 to 494,000 grams of carbon dioxide per kilowatt-hour of battery capacity.
Now 20 states have coal or oil (in Hawaii) as their primary fuel for electrical generation. Nobody uses 100% coal, although Wyoming and West Virginia come close.
Toyota is going to make the case that their NON PLUG IN hybrids are not that bad compared to BEVs and when you factor in the carbon dioxide generated in making of the batteries it is pretty close.
For people with the money and with single family homes and private garages, BEVs might be the natural choice. Toyota has pledged to go all electric with Lexus division.
But they don't want the government to outlaw hybrids.
166 g TOYOTA PRIUS Eco 1.8 L
167 g TOYOTA CAMRY HYBRID LE 2.5 L
171 g TOYOTA COROLLA HYBRID 1.8 L
178 g TOYOTA PRIUS 1.8 L
187 g TOYOTA PRIUS AWD 1.8 L
189 g TOYOTA CAMRY HYBRID SE/XLE/XSE 2.5 L
197 g TOYOTA AVALON HYBRID XLE 2.5 L
203 g TOYOTA AVALON HYBRID 2.5 L
223 g TOYOTA COROLLA 2.0 L
233 g TOYOTA RAV4 HYBRID AWD 2.5 L
238 g TOYOTA VENZA AWD 2.5 L
244 g TOYOTA SIENNA 2.5 L
248 g TOYOTA HIGHLANDER HYBRID 2.5 L
249 g TOYOTA SIENNA AWD 2.5 L
254 g TOYOTA RAV4 2.5 L
256 g TOYOTA HIGHLANDER HYBRID AWD 2.5
259 g TOYOTA HIGHLANDER HYBRID AWD LTD/PLAT 2.5
Now Toyota is going to have a harder time with their 6 cylinder gasoline models. The Tacoma, 4 Runner, and Sequoia should have hybrid versions by 2025.
268 TOYOTA CAMRY 3.5 6
272 TOYOTA AVALON XLE 3.5 6
277 TOYOTA CAMRY XSE 3.5 6
282 TOYOTA AVALON 3.5 6
287 TOYOTA CAMRY TRD 3.5 6
314 TOYOTA HIGHLANDER 3.5 6
322 TOYOTA HIGHLANDER AWD 3.5 6
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377 TOYOTA TACOMA 2WD 3.5 6
397 TOYOTA TACOMA 4WD 3.5 6
432 TOYOTA TACOMA 4WD 3.5 6
441 TOYOTA TACOMA 4WD D-CAB MT TRD-ORP/PRO 3.5 6
460 TOYOTA 4RUNNER 2WD 4.0 6
464 TOYOTA 4RUNNER 4WD 4.0 6
470 TOYOTA 4RUNNER 4WD 4.0 6
522 TOYOTA SEQUOIA 4WD 5.7 8
523 TOYOTA SEQUOIA 2WD 5.7 8
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For those who want to use Norway as the poster child for EVs oughta read this first--- without the revenues they gain from exporting oil & gas, they could never afford the subsidies they give to encourage the use of EVs...
...Even worse, they need to sell the fossil fuel equivalent of 45-75 tons of co2 production to subsidize the "EV co2 savings" of only one ton of co2.....Doesn't make much sense if your goal is to prevent co2 production....But it does make good econonic sense for the Norwegians.
The carbon footprint of manufacturing an EV is about 2x that of the ICE. ...
Once you add in the C footpiint of the fuel for using the vehicle, things get better for the EV, depending on how it is charged--
The C - footprint for the ICE is 59 tons, for an EV charged at the world average Elect gen mix 50 tons (only ~ 20% C savings) , for energy production at the EU average mix 42 tons (30% savings), and with all wind production of elect- 27tons (45% savings of C footprint)-- impressive but not nearly "Zero Carbon."
BTW- that accounting doesn't include the C produced in the production & disposal of the windmils, but not for the mining of the fossil fuels either.
The article cited itself is an interesting, concise review of the engineering differences behind the four types of EVs now available. All engineering solutions are trade-offs among the competing factors.
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Not enough electricity in CA for electrical vehicles
