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View Poll Results: Will you be voting for Romney or Obama?
Romney 52 53.61%
Obama 45 46.39%
Voters: 97. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 10-19-2012, 12:19 PM
 
Location: Piedmont, SC
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I will vote for the first candidate that will cut military spending to match reality. Plus I'd like to see an actual world war sometime in my lifetime. Or a zombie apocalypse

Edit: also didn't think that many republicans knew how to use the Internet! :-D
See, we were having a nice conversation here. You may think they're harmless, but please keep these kind of remarks out of this thread.
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Old 10-19-2012, 01:22 PM
 
Location: Dallas, TX
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The reason I LOVE the Libertarians is that they really are the best of both worlds - without the worst of each.

They believe in a level of limited government and fiscal restraint that would make even most Republicans look positively wasteful; they want the US out of foreign wars and to have a military for national defense as prescribed in the Constitution that can protect this country; they believe in self-reliance and responsibility, yet also believe that citizens should be able to enjoy certain recreational drugs or marry someone of the same gender if they choose, because the government shouldn't be that intrusive.

It all boils down to liberty - the only things/actions that should be illegal are things that infringe upon or take away the rights of others.
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Old 10-19-2012, 01:30 PM
 
Location: Upstate
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The reason I LOVE the Libertarians is that they really are the best of both worlds - without the worst of each.

They believe in a level of limited government and fiscal restraint that would make even most Republicans look positively wasteful; they want the US out of foreign wars and to have a military for national defense as prescribed in the Constitution that can protect this country; they believe in self-reliance and responsibility, yet also believe that citizens should be able to enjoy certain recreational drugs or marry someone of the same gender if they choose, because the government shouldn't be that intrusive.

It all boils down to liberty - the only things/actions that should be illegal are things that infringe upon or take away the rights of others.
Too bad Gary Johnson could not get any traction or the media attention he deserves.

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Unlike Ron Paul, who attracted widespread support as a Republican during the Republican presidential primaries, Johnson opted to run as a Libertarian candidate in election 2012. It is nearly impossible for third party candidates to be a serious contender for the presidency in American politics, but it is certainly possible (think Ralph Nader) for them to impact the outcome of the election and tip the balance in one candidate or another's favor. If the 2012 election is as close as polls suggest, than Johnson could indeed play the role of spoiler.

Johnson is pro-marijuana legalization, antiwar, and fights for civil liberties and limited government instrusion in Americans' private lives. The former governor of New Mexico could have the biggest impact in the state of Nevada, where Obama and Romney are tied, but he also could cut support for Romney in Florida, Ohio, and Virginia, all important swing states in the election.
Gary Johnson Shut Out of Second Presidential Debate, But Polls Show He May Swing Election 2012
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Old 10-19-2012, 01:51 PM
 
Location: Dallas, TX
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Too bad Gary Johnson could not get any traction or the media attention he deserves.



Gary Johnson Shut Out of Second Presidential Debate, But Polls Show He May Swing Election 2012
The Big Two really have too much control over things... A major third party has all the cards stacked against it, regardless of how extra-Constitutional the "mainstream" parties have become. This should be an AMERICAN process, not a Democratic or Republican one.
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Old 10-19-2012, 01:54 PM
 
Location: Piedmont, SC
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In case you haven't heard, there was a debate last night on IVN.us between 3rd party candidates:

Gary Johnson and Jill Stein Talk Specifics in Online Debate - IVN.us

There was a also a recent amended debate transcript, where several candidates included their own responses to the presidential debate questions.

Exclusive: Expanding the Debate with Third-Party Candidates Jill Stein, Virgil Goode, Rocky Anderson
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Old 10-19-2012, 02:23 PM
 
Location: Dallas, TX
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In case you haven't heard, there was a debate last night on IVN.us between 3rd party candidates:

Gary Johnson and Jill Stein Talk Specifics in Online Debate - IVN.us

There was a also a recent amended debate transcript, where several candidates included their own responses to the presidential debate questions.

Exclusive: Expanding the Debate with Third-Party Candidates Jill Stein, Virgil Goode, Rocky Anderson
That is cool and all, but people have to LOOK for that.... The Libertarian party is probably the 3rd "major" party and is growing. Their message should have been part of the nationally-televised presidential debates.
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Old 10-19-2012, 05:17 PM
 
Location: Greenville, SC
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I agree with the reality of this post.

The two candidates carry plenty of negative "baggage," yet they both offer positive ideas that could help citizens in different ways. One candidate seems to genuinely understand the importance of balancing a budget and limiting frivolous funding for special interest groups. Our nation is facing economic disaster unless we act quickly to restore financial sustainability. Higher taxes are not appealing (How many of us are eager to give away more wealth when we need it most?), but they are inevitable if we continue to purchase debt with diminishing credit.
I have to assume you are referring to Obama.

Cause...you can't cut taxes 20% for everybody, AND increase spending on the military, AND balance the budget. It's simple math.

Doing what Romney proposes leaves us trillions of dollars of more debt.

Trillions.

If people really think the deficit is the biggest issue facing our country. The issue that will be our national downfall. Then do the patriotic thing and pay up. Save the country. Pitch in.

We have a trillion dollar war we haven't paid for. Trillions in tax cuts during a war we haven't paid for. The highest tax bracket after WWII was 90%.

Ninety percent.

Yeah, paying more in taxes is unappealing, but there is no way to cut the deficit otherwise.

No way.

What Obama pushed for during his Presidency (The Grand Bargain) would have reduced our debt by trillions.

It was blocked by a Republican house.

The Republican House of Representatives blocked the largest debt reduction proposal of our lifetime.

Where was all this talk of doom and gloom over our debt when Bush created so much of it? Or when Reagan did it?

How come conservatives only have a debt issue when a Democrat is President? How come the debt will only end this country forever if the money is spent here, instead of abroad?
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Old 10-19-2012, 07:03 PM
 
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I have to assume you are referring to Obama.

Cause...you can't cut taxes 20% for everybody, AND increase spending on the military, AND balance the budget. It's simple math.

Doing what Romney proposes leaves us trillions of dollars of more debt.

Trillions.

If people really think the deficit is the biggest issue facing our country. The issue that will be our national downfall. Then do the patriotic thing and pay up. Save the country. Pitch in.

We have a trillion dollar war we haven't paid for. Trillions in tax cuts during a war we haven't paid for. The highest tax bracket after WWII was 90%.

Ninety percent.

Yeah, paying more in taxes is unappealing, but there is no way to cut the deficit otherwise.

No way.

What Obama pushed for during his Presidency (The Grand Bargain) would have reduced our debt by trillions.

It was blocked by a Republican house.

The Republican House of Representatives blocked the largest debt reduction proposal of our lifetime.

Where was all this talk of doom and gloom over our debt when Bush created so much of it? Or when Reagan did it?

How come conservatives only have a debt issue when a Democrat is President? How come the debt will only end this country forever if the money is spent here, instead of abroad?
Obama had a super majority for 2 and a half years and couldn't, no, wouldn't, pass a budget.
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Old 10-19-2012, 07:20 PM
 
Location: Greenville, SC
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Obama had a super majority for 2 and a half years and couldn't, no, wouldn't, pass a budget.
No. He didn't. That's simply not true. Name the beginning and end of those two and a half years.

I dare you.

Please proceed, Sophiasmommy...
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Old 10-20-2012, 05:54 AM
 
Location: Atlanta, Ga
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Id like to know too...I believe the house and senate has to agree in order to get it done...and when has that happened?
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