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The exchanges are making insurance cheaper as they open up free market competition to many new customers. The competition, coupled with better health for more people is only positive for overall healthcare costs. In other words, what you are saying is totally false. Turn off FOX and turn down the AM radio and educate yourself.
Obamacare is NOT making premiums cheaper and it has nothing to do with free market if government is forcing insurance companies to do x, y, and z. People are saying their premiums are going up and you are basically calling them liars. It is time for you to stop repeating the talking points used to sell this thing. We are dealing in reality now.
You clearly don't understand what free market means or you just using Soviet style propaganda (saying the opposite of the truth is the truth) to push this horrible mess.
There was competition without government involvement. If it was just about competition then the government wouldn't need to pass the law.
In other words, turn off MSNBC and Al Sharpton and stop parroting what Democrats have said in the past about it.
It's true, my premium went up. From $0/month to $100/month. How can this happen. Obama MUST be a socialist and it's the end of the world.
Jeffrey, you don't always have to have the last word.
Why do you get offended if we label Obama accurately as a socialist. Europeans leftwingers call themselves socialists. It just a word that describes a political philosophy. It would be like me getting upset if you called me a conservative.
Why should I have to be happy about my premium going up? I am a citizen and I don't see why government get involved. We could divert a pile of tax revenue that is current being wasted on things like subsidies to solar power companies that are failing, to help poor people out with their medical costs, without the government affecting everybody's insurance plan.
Most Americans were happy with their plans and what they paid for them through their employers. Obama's plan has affected our plans, took money out of our pockets for no reason and most likely most if not all insurance companies are going to be driven out of business due to the high costs as the government will be able to undercost them in premiums because they don't have to make a profit to stay in business, they'll just raise our taxes but a lot of people won't connect the dots on that. I don't want government to be my only option. It is the end of the world from a freedom standpoint, and the mandate that free citizens should have to buy insurance , which is not the government's role or business, or pay a fine is crazy stuff.
That is fine if you like it but I have the right not to like it. I have no problem with you and others having government run your healthcare decisions and affect your premiums, etc. I just want it not to impact me.
Goeffrey,
You do't know if the premiums are cheaper or not.
Have you gone on the web site and established what your premiums
are going to be?
Do you have any kind of health insurance now?
You said you don't want to be forced to buy health insurance.
Fine, don't buy it.
Really, don't buy it if you really feel you don't want it or need it.
It's your financial and health risk you take, not mine.
Don't worry, the Health Care police aren't going to arrest you.
I have a feeling you have a good health insurance policy and you are
coming onto this board badmouthing something YOU KNOW NOTHING
about.
So, leave the good hard working people of South Carolina alone and if they
need health insurance because their employer doesn't provide it, I say
go right on and buy it from the health care exchange from the FEDERAL govt.
I pay federal income taxes, Social Security taxes, Medicare taxes, and I have the
right to affordable health insurance now.
Change is hard sometimes, especially for the older and the Billionaires who are
paying for this whole thing.
Poor Billionaires.
I know I don't need someone with the screename Butterfly4u giving me lectures about something that I have a good handle on.
The people who supported Obamacare are the ones who need to leave people alone. I am not doing anything to anybody if I don't want the government to impact my healthcare costs and choices.
You don't have the right to have other people pay your medical costs. What is next, people have to pay for your food, your car, your car insurance? Government has certain roles, healthcare isn't one of them. We can help out the poor with their healthcare costs (dirty secret is they are already getting their healthcare for free or on sliding scale based on income) without government messing with the entire healthcare industry.
The government gets involved to help defend clueless people like yourself. Or more eloquently: to help those that can't help themselves. I'm sure if you had your way we would be living in a world full of asbestos, lead paint and horrible pollution. Education would be only for the rich, clean water only for whites. No one making under $250,000 a year could afford a home. Every road you went down would require a different toll and food you consume would be unsafe.
The government protects citizens.(I agree they get distracted with bull**** from time to time, in general they have a positive impact on society and if they slack, we can vote them out)
What you don't realize is how you're being steamrolled by your current health insurance. Your premiums were raising by 10-20% annually anyway. Covered services were diminishing and deductibles were escalating. Insurers would spend more time figuring out how NOT to pay your hospital bills. Don't like it, well switch to another company that is doing the same thing.
Obamacare is a good thing, and is fixing fundamental flaws to the current health care system that was destroying the lives of Americans. Maybe the trade off is a higher premium- but in this case the quality coverage will improve not diminish.
Ok, well I don't need you telling me how things are. It was called the Affordable Care Act. Obama said a family 4 was going to pay 2500 less a year u nder this law. Yet premiums are going up for most everybody. It is everything Republicans said it was going to be.
This issue is going to end up being a goldmine for Republicans in election time I suspect as the reality of it becomes undeniable by Democrats.
My serves were not diminishing and my deductibles were not increasing. Again, you are asserting things people know isn't true.
Healthcare is going to diminish under Obamacare, and Obama even told a woman that her old mother would not be eligible for a certain type of surgery because she was like 98 or something. He said something about how she could just take a pill or something. Just a weird view of his role as president. If some old lady wants to get a surgery done, the governmet shouldn't say no you can't b/c you are too old and you'll be dead soon. That isn't freedom and it is ghoulish.
The government gets involved to help defend clueless people like yourself. Or more eloquently: to help those that can't help themselves. I'm sure if you had your way we would be living in a world full of asbestos, lead paint and horrible pollution. Education would be only for the rich, clean water only for whites. No one making under $250,000 a year could afford a home. Every road you went down would require a different toll and food you consume would be unsafe.
The government protects citizens.(I agree they get distracted with bull**** from time to time, in general they have a positive impact on society and if they slack, we can vote them out)
What you don't realize is how you're being steamrolled by your current health insurance. Your premiums were raising by 10-20% annually anyway. Covered services were diminishing and deductibles were escalating. Insurers would spend more time figuring out how NOT to pay your hospital bills. Don't like it, well switch to another company that is doing the same thing.
Obamacare is a good thing, and is fixing fundamental flaws to the current health care system that was destroying the lives of Americans. Maybe the trade off is a higher premium- but in this case the quality coverage will improve not diminish.
You are one arrogant person. The government is your God, dude. You are asserting they are getting involved to "defend" me. How is it defending me to increase my premiums and healthcare costs? How will be be defending when government is ultimately the only option? Healthcare is none of their business. The price of food has increased the last 5 years, by your logic they should interfere in grocery store business and when they raise the food costs even more you will say they are defending us simply because they are the government. You dont' make sense.
I don't need you telling me my insurance is screwing me over and I think I am far more intelligent you are. My premiums were not escalating every year, my services were not diminishing and my deductibles were not escalating. Why would I lie about this? If the government being involved was to my advantage then I wouldn't be so passionate about this.
You act like you are judge and jury on everything.
After watching some Fox News I say we all just buy lots of gold coins.
Your comedy routine is falling flat everytime man. You are not Jerry Seinfield, bro.
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