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Old 02-22-2014, 07:25 AM
 
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Thank you everyone for all of the helpful advice!

 
Old 02-24-2014, 03:23 PM
 
Location: Greenville, SC
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As an Asian Indian who has lived here for over 20 years and seen the city grow and become more diverse, I agree with you post except the above statement.

It depends on how you want to project yourself and be perceived. I don't project my religion (Hinduism) on to others but certainly will not put up with overbearing conservative Christianity. I let people enjoy their religion at homes and temples of worship but will not allow it to interfere in my child's school studies or at my work.

I am a middle of the road independent - fiscal conservative and social liberal. I openly project my views and let other views be heard. Don't care what others think of me because that is who I am.

I don't care what others think of me, either.

Unfortunately, my (liberal) views have had real consequences for me at work here in Greenville. Everything was fine and dandy at my job until a coworker, and therefore my boss, found out that not only was I not conservative, but I was a non-Christian.

The whole entire company was Christian, especially the owners. Every single employee was married and went to church on a regular basis. I'm not entirely sure how I got hired, except that I appeared very conservative at the time?

One employee kept talking to me about God/Church/etc. until I finally felt I had to say that I was not Christian. And that was the last time that employee spoke a word to me. Literally not a word after that moment. I had thought we could actually be friends outside of work at one point, but after he refused to communicate with me, even in professional correspondence, life at work really, really sucked.

My direct supervisor was great, but his boss (one of the owners) actually started coming over to me and arguing politics during the work day. It was unbelievable. All I could do, really, was listen to his (rather insane) rants about Obama/Muslims/Socialism.

So much ignorance in this area.

In addition to the one employee not ever speaking to me again, another owner began treating me VERY differently after my "coming out." The situation became unbearable and I found another job.

I did find out later that the owners were basically crooks. The one employee I kept in touch with (via Facebook mainly) said that cops showed up one day and shut the place down. So things worked out in the end.
 
Old 02-24-2014, 03:37 PM
 
Location: Wandering.
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And that was the last time that employee spoke a word to me. Literally not a word after that moment.
I'm pretty sure you came out on the good end of that deal.
 
Old 02-24-2014, 03:44 PM
 
Location: NH
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You want to see consequences based on political views.....try Union heavy Boston.

I dare you to go onto a Union job site with no Union sticker on your hat (hard hat), and maybe a conservative candidates sticker on your hat. Say hello to not getting on the job lift, dirty looks, hassles from all the stewards. Nothing like being on a site with 2000+ Union liberals that would lock you off the site and out of a job if they had their way.

Please, do tell how the lenient left is so much better....
 
Old 02-24-2014, 04:50 PM
 
Location: Greenville, SC
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You want to see consequences based on political views.....try Union heavy Boston.

I dare you to go onto a Union job site with no Union sticker on your hat (hard hat), and maybe a conservative candidates sticker on your hat. Say hello to not getting on the job lift, dirty looks, haassles from all the stewards. Nothing like being on a site with 2000+ Union liberals that would lock you off the site and out of a job if they had their way.

Please, do tell how the lenient left is so much better....
To be fair, going into a "Union job site" and not joining the union is quite different than my situation.

My religion (or anyone else's) had nothing to do with my or anyone else's job performance or job security.

Now, if I was working at a church or some religion-based organization, you'd have a much better point.
 
Old 02-24-2014, 04:51 PM
 
Location: Greenville, SC
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I'm pretty sure you came out on the good end of that deal.
Indeed!
 
Old 02-24-2014, 05:17 PM
 
Location: NH
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To be fair, going into a "Union job site" and not joining the union is quite different than my situation.

My religion (or anyone else's) had nothing to do with my or anyone else's job performance or job security.

Now, if I was working at a church or some religion-based organization, you'd have a much better point.
Negative, it is only a "Union Jobsite" because it is in Boston (Metro area). Union membership is not required. Im entitled to work there as much as the next guy. I simply choose not to work for one of the Union companies...does that mean I deserve the intimidation and treatment?

Try not to be a hypocrite here....
 
Old 02-24-2014, 05:25 PM
 
Location: Greenville, SC
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Negative, it is only a "Union Jobsite" because it is in Boston (Metro area). Union membership is not required. Im entitled to work there as much as the next guy. I simply choose not to work for one of the Union companies...does that mean I deserve the intimidation and treatment?

Try not to be a hypocrite here....
I'm not sure that you understand what a "hypocrite" is.

And when you wrote "union job site," I assumed that what you meant was everybody there had to belong to a union.

Your religion is not work-related.

Unionization = pretty clearly work-related.

But you're right. No one deserves to be mistreated or intimidated at work.

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Old 02-25-2014, 10:46 AM
 
Location: NH
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I'm not sure that you understand what a "hypocrite" is.

And when you wrote "union job site," I assumed that what you meant was everybody there had to belong to a union.

Your religion is not work-related.

Unionization = pretty clearly work-related.

But you're right. No one deserves to be mistreated or intimidated at work.
Anyone has a right to work on a job site. The only time it is "required" is if the company/shop is a "closed" shop. An entire site is not "closed" to Unions only.

When I said Hypocrite I meant your choice of applying your story of intimidation and poor treatment in the work place, and then failing to see the correlation in my story. Both of us at work, both of us judged and treated differently for our views. Granted my religious views did not come into play. I chose to simply ignore them (when possible). I found a middle ground, and chocked it up to what it takes to work in the City. I actually became friends with a handful, and that went a long way in having a better day on the site. Especially if you made friends with a few of the senior guys...

The moral of the story, this type of thing happens everywhere. It is human nature to judge & be judged for differing opinions. Lots of folks like to say that they don't care what others think.....couldn't be a bigger load of BS. Very few people have freed themselves from that burden. Rather, we have all taken a more firm stand in our own beliefs and let ourselves be judged on that. If ones' beliefs differ from another's, thats nature...and thats ok.
 
Old 02-25-2014, 09:11 PM
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I would encourage you to visit. I lived in Maine for over 20 years. We moved south 10 years ago with a job transfer, and have been in Greenville for almost 8 years. We really like it here and have no intention of leaving. Size-wise (population), it is quite similar to Portland and Cumberland County. We still enjoy 4 seasons, but the season of snow lasts 2-3 days, not 3-4 months. People coming from big cities like NYC, Chicago, or LA may not consider it diverse. Compared to Maine, it is extremely diverse.
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