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was driving on I-85 this morning up around Greer and you guessed it someone had chucked a hammer and a cinder block into two of the north bound lanes. really?!?!?!?!?!?!!
was also driving on said same trip up on 221 through Chesnee and into North Carolina. The NC portion is GORGEOUSLY paved, free of debris, just amazing. muahh!!!!!
SC portion is well....you get what you pay for as they say.
You mean "a major company" - Michelin. Last I looked they are still here and investing in SC.
New investment projects take many months to plan, research, and negotiate. The SC roads are now being entered on the decision matrix and will affect future decisions.
Some of you guys seem to literally think about roads 24-7. Tractor trailer drivers, I guess? My opinion, the first sign of old age is when you start talking about roads all the time. lol You are Grandpa Simpson at that point.
Most of the people who complain about roads in SC are in the 0 percent income tax bracket after exemptions/deductions. Roads are quite good considering half the state's residents don't pay income tax.
If roads are so much better elsewhere, and roads are important to you, feel free to move. The irony is you beat up on the state of SC all the time but obviously it is the only state you can get a job in. lol
Don't bite the hand that feeds you.
If you going to argue gas tax needs to go up to be close to NC or GA's gas tax, then to be consistent, we need to lower our top marginal income tax rate from 7 percent (highest in the southeast, 12th highest in the country) down to match NC's 5.8 or GA's 6 percent. NC's 5.8 is a flat rate, so we need to do that too.
Last edited by Just Asking Questions; 06-21-2015 at 07:44 PM..
was also driving on said same trip up on 221 through Chesnee and into North Carolina. The NC portion is GORGEOUSLY paved, free of debris, just amazing. muahh!!!!!
SC portion is well....you get what you pay for as they say.
South Carolina Department of Transportation, Spartanburg County and the City of Chesnee should get together about widening United States Route 221 to four lanes to the North Carolina state line. The logical solution is a bypass.
Some of you guys seem to literally think about roads 24-7. Tractor trailer drivers, I guess? My opinion, the first sign of old age is when you start talking about roads all the time. lol You are Grandpa Simpson at that point.
Most of the people who complain about roads in SC are in the 0 percent income tax bracket after exemptions/deductions. Roads are quite good considering half the state's residents don't pay income tax.
If roads are so much better elsewhere, and roads are important to you, feel free to move. The irony is you beat up on the state of SC all the time but obviously it is the only state you can get a job in. lol
Don't bite the hand that feeds you.
If you going to argue gas tax needs to go up to be close to NC or GA's gas tax, then to be consistent, we need to lower our top marginal income tax rate from 7 percent (highest in the southeast, 12th highest in the country) down to match NC's 5.8 or GA's 6 percent. NC's 5.8 is a flat rate, so we need to do that too.
Honestly, people just want their roads fixed, they aren't thinking about rather they themself are paying for it or the wealthiest guy in town. North Carolina roads are better in certain parts of the state, I would know since I lived a great portion of my life there, but South Carolina not making the critical investments in the infrastructure will soon play an instrumental role in rather X-Company moves to South Carolina or another location. Now if SC had a high-tech economy as opposed to being built upon manufacturing then of course roads wouldn't be talked about as much.
New investment projects take many months to plan, research, and negotiate. The SC roads are now being entered on the decision matrix and will affect future decisions.
I would be interested where this data comes from. It is hard to find recent data from more than one or two sources. The one that constantly comes up in search results is a report of the performance of our nations highways from 1984-2012, backed by the Koch Brothers, but "says" they are a "libertarian leaning source".
They rank South Carolina 4th in the nation for overall performance and cost-effectiveness.
Quote:
1. Wyoming
2. Nebraska
3. South Dakota
4. South Carolina
5. Kansas
Besides the comments from Michelin, I would be interested in seeing the "decision matrix" or where a corporation would get their data, from if you are able to provide it, to get a balanced view.
As a daily driver on SC roads, I feel we certainly could do better than what the DOT is providing.
Since the gas tax increase went into affect 3 1/2 years ago, SCDOT has collected $1.85 Billion (with $23M interest!). This is more than the total projected costs of all the repairs identified by SCDOT.
It's a gradual increase to 12 cents a gallon over six years.
SC has the third highest miles of roads in the country, nearly 42,000 miles. 80% of those need resurfacing or rebuilding. 465 out of 750 bridges are "structurally deficient" and need replaced.
$260M is being set aside for interstate widening. And $163M for safety improvements.
So far of the funds distributed, Spartanburg County has received $20.4M; Greenville $21.6M and Anderson $14M.
Our friends in the Pee-Dee area of Horry got the biggest chunk of $37M.
In a nutshell, the current gas tax proceeds have filled the coffers in Columbia with MORE than enough money to repair every project that was considered in 2017. Most projects have not been started. Taxes will increase over the next 2.5 years then hold steady.
Besides the Gateway project, do you think the gas tax was worth it and is the Upstate getting it's fare share of road improvements?
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