Warning to Mainland Hires (rental car, transplants, insurance)

[Dthraco]

Yikes. That REALLY SUCKS. Sorry to hear this happened, and glad you didn't get all the balls in the air.

[Slinkygirl]

This is such sad news. I am so sorry that you all went through this. Thanks for your good advice.

[JayBeeNOLA]

Dear Sunny Side,

I am so sorry to read about your family's experience - I know it has affected you & your children as well. I deeply appreciate that you have taken the time to post your experience and offer it as a painful warning to the rest of us. My stomach flipped over when I read your post; I can easily imagine that I would assume all was well & that paperwork was in the mail.

My best wishes for you, your husband and family. May Karma kick some serious %*ss on your behalf!

JayBeeNOLA

[Lisa From Maui]

Thank you for posting. Hawai'i isn't all paradise. It has down sides too. Thank you for being honest. Lisa ;-)

[SunnySideUpS]

Hi,

I wanted to thank everyone for their kind words. We're feeling a little better but, still surprised how this happened.

We are still interested in relocating but, it may be sometime before my husband applies for another position in Hawaii. Does anyone have any thoughts as to preventing this from happening again? Something that came to mind was not accepting an offer for a job unless the company pays part of our moving expenses. I know that this would probably discourage some employers. But, if they had a financial interest in the offer they may be less likely to back out or change the terms. Just an idea.

I decided I'm just going to treat all my packed boxes like I usually do when we move. Ignore them for awhile.

S

[Oildog]

Sad to hear this, but maybe it happened for a reason, and things will work out for the best. I've heard Hawaii is a challenging place to work if your not from there. Had two colleagues work in the refineries out there. Both were essentially shunned by locals. Had a sibling take a job there in hospitality management. She left after a week due to racial and sexual harrassment. She had worked in kitchens before and was used to salty language and attitudes, but said it was nothing like this. To this day I boycott the islands.

[JayBeeNOLA]

Originally Posted by SunnySideUpS

Hi,

I wanted to thank everyone for their kind words. We're feeling a little better but, still surprised how this happened.

We are still interested in relocating but, it may be sometime before my husband applies for another position in Hawaii. Does anyone have any thoughts as to preventing this from happening again? Something that came to mind was not accepting an offer for a job unless the company pays part of our moving expenses. I know that this would probably discourage some employers. But, if they had a financial interest in the offer they may be less likely to back out or change the terms. Just an idea.

I decided I'm just going to treat all my packed boxes like I usually do when we move. Ignore them for awhile.

S

Hi Sunny,

Been thinking...I too am looking to move to HI, likely Oahu at first. I've been looking at some of the exec recruiters there, esp Bishop & Co. & Inkinen & Assoc. My guess/hope is that pursuing and landing) a position through a local recruiter may ensure protocol is followed through HR channels, as the recruiter gets paid by employer. Perhaps other members have some ideas, or experiences to support, refute?
JayBee

[eksotia]

I'm so sorry this happened to your husband it happened to me once, not in Hawaii but in Europe, luckily I was single, young, didn't own any property, and moved to another country just with my suitcases ... so I bounced back pretty quick

I think your attitude is correct, in the future don't move somewhere unless the company is willing to pay for relocation. This might slash your chances greatly to get the job if they decided it will be cheaper to hire someone locally, but at least your family will be safe from the stress and monetary loss.

[PacificFlights]

Originally Posted by SunnySideUpS

We are still interested in relocating but, it may be sometime before my husband applies for another position in Hawaii. Does anyone have any thoughts as to preventing this from happening again? Something that came to mind was not accepting an offer for a job unless the company pays part of our moving expenses. I know that this would probably discourage some employers. But, if they had a financial interest in the offer they may be less likely to back out or change the terms. Just an idea.

You may find your chances cut to near nothing. Unless in ahigh demand, low candidate field, companies on Hawaii does not often pay relocation expenses and even if they agree to pay, they dont pay until they make the final decission so you would still be in the same boat.

What hapens is that for decades employers would hire off island candiates and get burn because people will change their mind on the employer and back out. I heard some employers say they hire someone and after offer letters and start dates, that person never shows up and never calls back. I know it hurts something bad when this happens but employers are only doing whats been done to them for sooo long.

[tyvin]

To insure it doesn't happen again have the people write a simple statement about the fact that the job is yours and starting date. With date and signature it doesn't' matter if it's written on scratch it's still a legal document. If they hedge and can't provide some written assurance you have your answer.

So sorry this has happened to you; I truly respect your character to not disclose the name even though it would serve them right. Karma works in mysterious ways.