Climbing the ladder and poverty

[merced mullet]

Originally Posted by Huckleberry3911948

...cowboy up son and get a life

Thats "PANIOLO up" around these parts, pard-ner!

[winkosmosis]

Originally Posted by whtviper1

I agree, especially in times like the economic downturn in 2008. With unemployment so low right now, pretty much anyone can get hired (at least on Oahu) - I'd say well over 50% of the new hire management employees in the past year where I work are from the mainland due to the low unemployment rate.

People aren't available.

Give me a break. If that was the case, jobs wouldn't be paying minimum wage or slightly higher on Oahu. That's just absurd. Slightly less absurd on Maui, but still absurd.

I saw a job listing for a luau photographer in Wailea for $9-12. Is that some kind of joke? They're paying a skilled artist less than the beach crew.

http://honolulu.craigslist.org/mau/fbh/4343340035.html

[whtviper1]

Originally Posted by winkosmosis

If that was the case, jobs wouldn't be paying minimum wage or slightly higher on Oahu. That's just absurd. Slightly less absurd on Maui, but still absurd.

I saw a job listing for a luau photographer in Wailea for $9-12. Is that some kind of joke? They're paying a skilled artist less than the beach crew.

An organization simply does not increase compensation just on the basis of taking time to fill an opening. Budgets are set and internal equity to other positions are factors. Hiring people to lose money also doesn't make any sense.

I suspect the vast majority making minimum wage or slightly higher on Oahu are unskilled immigrants or students. Skilled and college degreed professional do much better. Don't have skills - can't write or have good verbal skills or you lack a specialty in demand, low pay is probably in your future.

I'd expect a luau photographer to make $9-$12 hr, don't they get tips also? That is position for which I doubt there are no lack of applicants willing to make that kind of pay. $9-$12 sounds to me like that would be the going rate. They are taking pictures, it isn't like they are flying a plane, programming a new app, or an expert on HR benefits, etc.....

[winkosmosis]

Originally Posted by whtviper1

An organization simply does not increase compensation just on the basis of taking time to fill an opening. Budgets are set and internal equity to other positions are factors. Hiring people to lose money also doesn't make any sense.

I suspect the vast majority making minimum wage or slightly higher on Oahu are unskilled immigrants or students. Skilled and college degreed professional do much better. Don't have skills - can't write or have good verbal skills or you lack a specialty in demand, low pay is probably in your future.

I'd expect a luau photographer to make $9-$12 hr, don't they get tips also? That is position for which I doubt there are no lack of applicants willing to make that kind of pay. $9-$12 sounds to me like that would be the going rate. They are taking pictures, it isn't like they are flying a plane, programming a new app, or an expert on HR benefits, etc.....

They've been posting the Wailea listing for that same job for 2 months now. They seem to be unable to find anyone so I guess that supports what you said about companies not being able to find people... But they refuse to raise the wage.

I've never heard of a photographer getting tips. They don't carry around tip jars and they don't get paid by the customers directly so how would that work?