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Yes we allow people to make stupid choices. Nevertheless, they ARE choices ... whereas CV19 is not. Agree, nothing is dumber than smoking. Then again, lots of nice, good, otherwise intelligent people smoke, drink to excess, and do bad drugs.
We are being restricted temporarily in our movement - until treatments and prevention protocols become widely available. I don’t like the situation any more than you do. It sucks. Some of it is proving unnecessary and unrealistic. But I‘ve been through worse. When you are under surprise attack, it’s all hands on deck / man your stations while the situation is assessed and response can be coordinated.
When it has been months with no end in sight is temporary? Thank God I chose a career that pays a pension. I guess I got the last laugh at those who were making a whole lot of money by owning a business and being an entrepreneur calling us a “dumb cop.”
Wearing a mask as a lifestyle choice? No, you wear a mask because you simply don't know if you have become an infected carrier of Covid 19, asymptomatic or otherwise, and if you are shedding virus
everytime you open your mouth. You wear a mask to do your best to protect those you come in contact
with, and hopefully protect yourself from those who are possibly carrying the virus.
In addition, Covid 19 is a novel virus. A novel virus is one that has no vaccine or known cure. Because it
is a novel virus, we know very little about it, and we clearly don't know all the short and long term
mortality risks associated with this disease. Consequenty, we wear masks, practice physical distancing
and freqently wash our digits. It's pretty simple to understand.
So we know nothing about this virus, yet we wear a mask thinking it actually prevents the spread of this virus? Is there any actual study that states a cloth mask effectively stops a virus?
Sigh - I know why you wear a mask - and I wear one.
One has to have their head in the sand to not see many all across America has decided it is a lifestyle choice.
And, that is why we can't have nice things, like tourism and wide scale re-opening of our economy.
Because a significant portion of the population has been convinced the whole thing is a hoax or a conspiracy, and refuses to wear a mask or social distance, so they can "own the libs".
I only wear a mask to get into places. I don’t wear one thinking a cloth mask actually stops a microscopic virus. That would just be silly.
Those microscopic viruses don't fly, they are carried in aerosol, like spittle when you talk, cough, etc. A mask will stop a significant fraction of virus carried in such a manner. There are numerous studies confirming this. But, I am sure you would not believe them either. They are probably conducted by pointy headed liberals.
Next time you have to have any kind of surgery, you should demand that the surgeons and others in the OR not wear their masks. Germs are microscopic as well, so you should not be at any risk of getting an infection at all. It is all just a liberal conspiracy to do something I am sure, but I am not even sure what that conspiracy might be, any ideas?
Those microscopic viruses don't fly, they are carried in aerosol, like spittle when you talk, cough, etc. A mask will stop a significant fraction of virus carried in such a manner. There are numerous studies confirming this. But, I am sure you would not believe them either. They are probably conducted by pointy headed liberals.
Next time you have to have any kind of surgery, you should demand that the surgeons and others in the OR not wear their masks. Germs are microscopic as well, so you should not be at any risk of getting an infection at all. It is all just a liberal conspiracy to do something I am sure, but I am not even sure what that conspiracy might be, any ideas?
So viruses do not travel outside spit and aerosol type spray from a sneeze or cough? So when was the last time a person sneezed or coughed in your face? This is just me, but the last time anyone sneezed or coughed in my face were my children when they were toddlers. Most sentient beings when they cough and sneeze cover it up. You don’t need a mask to not sneeze and cough on everything. I’m just asking for a study that shows a microscopic virus is stopped from cloth? We know during the 1918 flu pandemic people were wearing masks and they didn’t do a darn thing.
So viruses do not travel outside spit and aerosol type spray from a sneeze or cough? So when was the last time a person sneezed or coughed in your face? This is just me, but the last time anyone sneezed or coughed in my face were my children when they were toddlers. Most sentient beings when they cough and sneeze cover it up. You don’t need a mask to not sneeze and cough on everything. I’m just asking for a study that shows a microscopic virus is stopped from cloth? We know during the 1918 flu pandemic people were wearing masks and they didn’t do a darn thing.
Its not just from sneezing and coughing, simply talking, and even exhaling, will put virus carrying aerosol and droplet in the air, a significant portion of which would be stopped by a mask.
So viruses do not travel outside spit and aerosol type spray from a sneeze or cough? So when was the last time a person sneezed or coughed in your face? This is just me, but the last time anyone sneezed or coughed in my face were my children when they were toddlers. Most sentient beings when they cough and sneeze cover it up. You don’t need a mask to not sneeze and cough on everything. I’m just asking for a study that shows a microscopic virus is stopped from cloth? We know during the 1918 flu pandemic people were wearing masks and they didn’t do a darn thing.
Lol. No. You do NOT know any such thing. There is no way to know what would have been the case if people had not worn masks.
Not sure saying has helped is speaking in absolutes unless you say hydroxycholoquin hasn’t helped anyone.
I see you never took Logic 101. No offense. Most people never have. “Has helped” is an absolute affirmative. Saying “it’s unknown (at this time) whether hydroxychloroquine is an effective treatment for Covid19” is neither an affirmation nor negation of it’s effect.
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Oh, that’s just one of the reasons for the higher amount of cases is do to more testing. I didn’t say that’s the only reason for case counts.
When the main stream media continually screams at the president which no president in my lifetime has ever had to endure, the polarization is coming from the left. It is the left who has turned covid and pretty much anything else they possibly can into something political. That’s who they are. We now live in a world of cancel culture and anything that doesn’t align with their ideology is racist and any other “ist” and “phobe” they can come up with.
When the President banned China from traveling to the US, what was the lefts position? But the president didn’t do enough. Then he banned travel from Europe, but that wasn’t enough. He did all this when the WHO and CDC were completely downplaying this virus. This president has surrounded himself around every expert, scientist, economist, and epidemiologist that a person can surround themselves around right from the very beginning. When people said there weren’t enough ventilations, what did the president do, he implemented the Defense Production Act for the manufacturing of more PPE and ventilators, he implemented Covid stimulus bills along with congress, he had makeshift buildings like the Javits center turned into hospitals and had Mercy and Comfort Get to the both coasts to take care of patients. There was absolutely no stone left unturned that this president had thrown to tackle this virus and to say otherwise is grossly intellectually dishonest. The media and the left has been disgusting throughout this so called fake pandemic and turned it into everything political In an attempt to destroy a presidency. Their Russia hoax didn’t work, their impeachment Hoax didn’t work, and now we are on their Covid Hoax. When that isn’t working, the leftists turned to this nation is systemically racist which is also a hoax. There is nothing from the left on this so called pandemic rooted in science. What we have is conformity, virtue signaling, and people shaming. If you do not agree with the left, you are just a immoral person wanting people to die. After all anyone who isn’t a leftist is a bad person with ideas. Trump being polarizing, ya, I’m glad he is polarizing and not willing to give into the crazy left and not afraid to call out their destruction. He is showing the difference between Americans who love this nation from those who do not by making shown those who do not by their actions. He is showing the lefts asses. He has exposed them for who they are and who they are are a bunch of Marxists who hate this nation and want to fundamentally transform her into something foreign. Thank God for President Trump. Sadly, he’s just a bandaid, a finger in the hole of a damn ready to burst. Hopefully the silent majority come out and put an end to this anti-American leftism. They are worse than the Bolsheviks and red China because they come at you disguised as the champions of liberty when in fact they are anything but. They are the champions of conformity, statism, administrative state, central government, man made rights, and misery.
When it has been months with no end in sight is temporary? Thank God I chose a career that pays a pension. I guess I got the last laugh at those who were making a whole lot of money by owning a business and being an entrepreneur calling us a “dumb cop.”
The World Wars endured for years. So did the Spanish Flu. Also the Great Depression. Even the Great Recession just recently. I can sandwich lots of other notable crises in between those events (polio for example) that altered and restricted social and economic “freedoms”.
You are too young, but polio had mothers and fathers scared to death in the 50’s. Public, and private, pools and playgrounds were shut down ... parents afraid to send their kids to school ... I remember it well. I knew kids who contracted it. Iron lungs, crutches and braces for life. Deaths. Eventually vaccine came along. Voila!
Raising my kids for years after their mother died of cancer comes to mind as well.
Personal struggles. Broad cultural struggles. Economic crashes. Pandemics. Political nightmares.
Yeah. This is temporary. It’s been 5 months.
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