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The only way the neighbor would not have been allowed onward travel to Maui is if the neighbor had a stopover. Connections via HNL are allowed to Maui - but it has to be a connection not a stopover.
Yes, many people are not following the rules
That makes sense. I will ask him when I see him again.
I read this morning in NYT that flu deaths for 2019-2020 were 22,000 in the U.S.. Recent years have been as high as 67,000.
Covid-19 deaths are pegged at 220,000 in the U.S. although there are now 275,000 more deaths than would
have been expected using accumulated data over the past several years.
It's looking like Covid-19 is around 10 times more deadly than the flu when compared to the most recent flu season.
Edit to add: Just saw on KITV4 that more people have now died from Covid-19 than died of the flu in the last 5 seasons together.
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I read this morning in NYT that flu deaths for 2019-2020 were 22,000 in the U.S.. Recent years have been as high as 67,000.
Covid-19 deaths are pegged at 220,000 in the U.S. although there are now 275,000 more deaths than would
have been expected using accumulated data over the past several years.
It's looking like Covid-19 is around 10 times more deadly than the flu when compared to the most recent flu season.
I am sure you will get all sorts of push back on this.
I would just point out that this roughly 10:1 ratio of deaths is AFTER we took all the precautions that people said were unnecessary, and we don't have a full year of data yet. Who knows what the death toll would have been otherwise.
I read this morning in NYT that flu deaths for 2019-2020 were 22,000 in the U.S.. Recent years have been as high as 67,000.
Covid-19 deaths are pegged at 220,000 in the U.S. although there are now 275,000 more deaths than would
have been expected using accumulated data over the past several years.
It's looking like Covid-19 is around 10 times more deadly than the flu when compared to the most recent flu season.
Edit to add: Just saw on KITV4 that more people have now died from Covid-19 than died of the flu in the last 5 seasons together.
Your last statement is correct.
The statement Covid-19 is around 10 times more deadly than the flu is not correct. The statement, Covid-19 has killed about 10 times more Americans than the 2019-2020 flu season would be a correct statement.
It would also be correct to say if you are over 70 - or obese - or have underlying medical conditions, it has a higher mortality rate than the flu.
It would also be correct to say for many people - the Covid mortality rate is lower than the flu. For instance, we know the flu kills a lot of kids every year - for Covid, that is an exception, not the rule. If you are under 60 - do not have underlying medical conditions - not obese - your risk is lower than flu.
The statement Covid-19 is around 10 times more deadly than the flu is not correct. The statement, Covid-19 has killed about 10 times more Americans than the 2019-2020 flu season would be a correct statement.
My statement: "It's looking like Covid-19 is around 10 times more deadly than the flu when compared to the most recent flu season."
Since my statement included that qualifier, I don't see it as "not correct".
It would also be correct to say if you are over 70 - or obese - or have underlying medical conditions, it has a higher mortality rate than the flu.
It would also be correct to say for many people - the Covid mortality rate is lower than the flu. For instance, we know the flu kills a lot of kids every year - for Covid, that is an exception, not the rule. If you are under 60 - do not have underlying medical conditions - not obese - your risk is lower than flu.
You are no longer talking about total Covid deaths but about specific subsets of the population...something I did not address.
Don’t forget if you die in a motorcycle crash and have Covid, it’s a covid death. Only 6% of all deaths attributed to Covid was Covid alone. 94% of the remaining Covid deaths had 2.6 comorbidities. The median age of Covid deaths is 78 years old.
Don’t forget if you die in a motorcycle crash and have Covid, it’s a covid death. Only 6% of all deaths attributed to Covid was Covid alone. 94% of the remaining Covid deaths had 2.6 comorbidities. The median age of Covid deaths is 78 years old.
I don't understand why this seems like an important detail to you?
Many, if not most people who die of heart attacks or cancer have the SAME comorbidities: Age; obesity; etc.. Should they not be considered heart attack or cancer deaths if comorbidities were also present?
Obviously someone who died in a motorcycle crash would have died with or without Covid, but how often has this happened? Pointing to one outlier doesn't mean that the hugely increased death count in America didn't happen.
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