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If you have data to suggest otherwise, I'd love to see it. I've seen no reports that in the State of Hawaii teats are delayed in any meaningful way. We have 4 labs in the State that can do testing.
We have capability for 5,000 tests a day - which will double soon. We've never tested more than 2,300 on any given day.
Given cases are in the order of 20-40 a day, it would be embarrassing if tests took a week to process.
But this is an even if - even if it took a week to get a result, which I find highly unlikely - that cuts quarantine down by a week - AND, provide the State data on asymptomatic carriers.
If the state has so much over-capacity of testing as you say, why are they sending tests to the mainland?
If you went back to my post - Lt Gov Josh Green said it - ask him.
I do find it funny however that people think it is statistically significant to have a 100 cases a day with a population of 1,000,000
Lets put it this way - our total cases is only equal to 1/3 of the homeless population - which is more likely than not to grow significantly due to the lock down
If you went back to my post - Lt Gov Josh Green said it - ask him.
I do find it funny however that people think it is statistically significant to have a 100 cases a day with a population of 1,000,000
Lets put it this way - our total cases is only equal to 1/3 of the homeless population - which is more likely than not to grow significantly due to the lock down
And the overwhelming majority of those cases will make a full recovery.
If you went back to my post - Lt Gov Josh Green said it - ask him.
I do find it funny however that people think it is statistically significant to have a 100 cases a day with a population of 1,000,000
Lets put it this way - our total cases is only equal to 1/3 of the homeless population - which is more likely than not to grow significantly due to the lock down
That's what's insane about this whole thing....
Just today 2 people died on the likelike. Why aren't people clamoring to shut down that roadway for 3 weeks because it's too dangerous?
The flu STILL kills 25X more people in hawaii every year than has died with covid so far. Why no shutdowns relating to the flu? It's far more deadly. More people catch the flu, and more people die from it.
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That's what's insane about this whole thing....
Just today 2 people died on the likelike. Why aren't people clamoring to shut down that roadway for 3 weeks because it's too dangerous?
The flu STILL kills 25X more people in hawaii every year than has died with covid so far. Why no shutdowns relating to the flu? It's far more deadly. More people catch the flu, and more people die from it.
You want to back that up with some stats. From somewhere other than the White House.
We have had 26 Corona related deaths in Hawaii as of the time I write this.
In Hawaii, 637 died in 2017 from the flu and over 500 each year in 2018 and 2019.
The article further points out 430 suicides and drug overdoses in 2017.
A direct quote from the article: What is clear is that the public has a skewed understanding of what is at stake in the war against the virus. Another direct quote - We have to open up to tourism.
The article also points out Hawaii's low vaccination from the flu (25%) - I'm not sure it would be any higher for a Corona vaccine
Again, not from the White House.
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We have had 26 Corona related deaths in Hawaii as of the time I write this.
In Hawaii, 637 died in 2017 from the flu and over 500 each year in 2018 and 2019.
The article further points out 430 suicides and drug overdoses in 2017.
A direct quote from the article: What is clear is that the public has a skewed understanding of what is at stake in the war against the virus. Another direct quote - We have to open up to tourism.
Again, not from the White House.
I really don’t see why some push back against what is easily verifiable.
We have had 26 Corona related deaths in Hawaii as of the time I write this.
In Hawaii, 637 died in 2017 from the flu and over 500 each year in 2018 and 2019.
The article further points out 430 suicides and drug overdoses in 2017.
A direct quote from the article: What is clear is that the public has a skewed understanding of what is at stake in the war against the virus. Another direct quote - We have to open up to tourism.
The article also points out Hawaii's low vaccination from the flu (25%) - I'm not sure it would be any higher for a Corona vaccine
Again, not from the White House.
We gently landed on the ground, so it is obvious we didn't need those parachutes!
Alaska is no longer offering testing to inbound nonresidents at airports.
These people must provide proof of negative test for travel, quarantine not an
option.
Who checks for these tests and where is it done? That hasn’t been explained yet.
Big surge of cases in state, though not in my particular region.
Panhandle has a land area approximately the size of Indiana with population of 71,000.
Around 12-20 active cases in entire area and no one hospitalized for it, yet we are still
lumped in with “hot” state status.
I really don’t see why some push back against what is easily verifiable.
I am not sure which part of the assertion he was pushing back against, but there were clearly some demonstrably false statements in the post:
The flu STILL kills 25X more people in hawaii every year than has died with covid so far. Why no shutdowns relating to the flu? It's far more deadly. More people catch the flu, and more people die from it.
While it is true that more people have died in a typical year in Hawaii than have died from Covid, the rest of the assertions are simply not supported by the data.
In the US, an estimate 40-60k people die from the flu each year. We are 5 months into Covid and have over 150k deaths. Worldwide, the flu estimate is 250-300k deaths annually, Covid deaths in 6-7 months so far is around 700k.
That was AFTER the world shut down to various degrees. What do you suppose the death counts would be if no one had shut down?
Hawaii locked down quite aggressively relative to most other states, the death tolls in Hawaii are one of the lowest. I suppose that could just be a coincidence.
Overall in the US, and the World, people are dying in much greater numbers from Covid than from the Flu, and that is EVEN WITH THE LOCK DOWNS. Do you suppose that the people of Hawaii have some sort of special immunity, or do you think that some it might be due to the aggressive measures that were taken?
To claim that more people die from the flu than from Covid justified a request to provide some stats.
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