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Old 09-11-2007, 06:14 PM
 
Location: Coastal Georgia
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Does anyone know why the hormones in HRT can cause bloodclots, but the very same hormones that were coursing through the body before menopause do not?
I got a whopper of a bloodclot after only 3 months on HRT, but I don't know why.
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Old 09-12-2007, 02:22 AM
 
Location: Somewhere.
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HRT has some weird ingredients. Try natural remedies for menopause like black cohosh and even Estroven. Soy products also help alot.
I will never take HRT(pregnant mares urine, ick) when i get to that stage of life.
Avoid pharmaceuticals whenever possible. Their side effects are really bad for your health, like that blood clot! I hope you are ok now.
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Old 09-12-2007, 05:59 AM
 
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I went on HRT a while back and got cramping and swelling in my legs. Had Xrays but didn't have a blood clot. I went off of them right away. I would also listen to PingSting. But I don't take soy products nor do I eat soy after reading about soy. But black cohost and even that Mexican yam is supposed to be good.
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Old 09-12-2007, 06:54 PM
 
Location: Coastal Georgia
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I'm OK now, but it was bad for awhile-on Coumadin for 2 years. No one should EVER take HRT. The discomfort of menopause only lasts a few years and its really no big deal (as long as you have a fan over your bed).
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Old 09-12-2007, 08:42 PM
 
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I never was on HRT before during or after menopause. I have heard too many cancer stories over the years. I also refuse the 80mg aspirinreccomendation. I have had some drs get mad at me for refusing and some to agree with me.
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Old 09-13-2007, 01:12 AM
 
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blue, something better than the aspirin regimen is raw unfiltered apple cider vinegar in water a couple times a day. It's used for so many things. From relieving high blood pressure by thinning the blood, to ridding your body of joint pain, and so much more.

The info on soy floating around the internet, many people say it's someone trying to do away with soy as remedies, kind of like the fda trying to discredit herbs and natural alternatives to drugs. More info here: Independent news on natural health, nutrition and more
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Old 09-13-2007, 06:18 AM
 
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Pink,

I have read a lot of information on soy, and what bothers me about it is that it can cause thyroid problems. I have read this by health food people who also mention a few other foods that are also harmful for this reason, which is why I stopped taking soy. So I am not so sure that any group is trying to do away with soy because they want people on say, milk. Soy wasn't eaten in the orient except as soy sauce, because soy sauce was the only way that it didn't harm the body. Now-a-days they are also making other soy products in those countries, and they are getting thyroid problems. I will not say that what I am saying is the total truth, but that is how I remember it. And I will not say that the articles that I have read are the gospel truth, but they caused me to no longer eat soy.
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Old 09-13-2007, 07:10 AM
 
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As for me, I just don'tt jump on the band wagon for any new supplement fad be it soy or garlic or whatever the news of the day is. I eat by the old fashioned 7 food groups that I learned many years in grade school. I get about everything I need there plus I spend enough time outside to get most of my vitanin d. I really don't worry that I drink five cups of coffee a day or that I have a sweet tooth..I have started taking calcium, because I am post menopausal and do have some osteoporous, but I don't focus on it..It is part of aging whether we like it or not I do plenty of exercise, and mostly weight bearing to keep in shape and have very little joint pain..
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Old 09-13-2007, 11:48 PM
 
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Pink,

I have read a lot of information on soy, and what bothers me about it is that it can cause thyroid problems. I have read this by health food people who also mention a few other foods that are also harmful for this reason, which is why I stopped taking soy. So I am not so sure that any group is trying to do away with soy because they want people on say, milk. Soy wasn't eaten in the orient except as soy sauce, because soy sauce was the only way that it didn't harm the body. Now-a-days they are also making other soy products in those countries, and they are getting thyroid problems. I will not say that what I am saying is the total truth, but that is how I remember it. And I will not say that the articles that I have read are the gospel truth, but they caused me to no longer eat soy.
How would one know if they had a thyroid disorder? What are the symptoms? I always thought i had a problem with my thyroid, but each time i was tested, it came back negative.
I'll do more research on soy, thanks.

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Old 09-14-2007, 04:32 AM
 
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I was tested for thyroid. In the past whenever a doctor tested me I was fine. Then I went on soy products for a year and all the sudden I am not fine. I went off soy, and now I am fine. Coincidence? Maybe. But because I had read that soy messes up the thyroid I went off it. I really have no idea, and I rather liked the idea of eating soy. I didn't have any of the symptoms that I should have had but my thyroid problem was mild. So I don't know. They could test me again and I may not be okay in six months.
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