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They didn't get behind the eight ball thirty years ago. They were chasing weed and blow when there was some guy with this blue stuff called crank people were trying. Unlike a weed or coke bust, a crank bust yielded very little product. I don't know if any one remembers the Vicks nasal inhalers you can't get anymore, but I knew guys in the 70's who were buying 1000's of them in cases and it never raised a red flag back then.
It's a shame that American culture doesn't address the underlying malaise that causes such desperation in people.
With all of the publicity about what meth does to a person, it's amazing there are so many either completely stupid or desperate people that basically just don't care.
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It is very, very difficult for me to imagine lives so empty or so abjectly miserable that meth use would seem attractive as a way out. Likewise, it is very, very difficult for me to imagine people so ignorant that they don't know about the health consequences of meth use or with so little valuation of self that they know and don't care.
My dentist was telling me how he once worked in a free clinic where he saw people in their early twenties who had lost all their teeth and the main factor was drug use. If that isn't pure insanity I don't know what is.
Can someone explain to me why even one single person would possibly try something like meth?
Nobody set out to lose their teeth. It's also not that they don't care. In most cases they tried it and really liked it. Some sub set of those people who tried it wanted more and were unable to stop. Others who tried it let it run its course and then moved on. The difference? The first group had a genetic preference for addiction, and the second group didn't. They didn't get to pick and they all assumed they could handle it. Now they are addicted and the power of the addiction is strong. Very strong. Strong enough to trade everything they know and love, including their own future. If they get help they will recover their lives, but most wont get help and their lives will always be a struggle for the next dose.
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They didn't get behind the eight ball thirty years ago. They were chasing weed and blow when there was some guy with this blue stuff called crank people were trying. Unlike a weed or coke bust, a crank bust yielded very little product. I don't know if any one remembers the Vicks nasal inhalers you can't get anymore, but I knew guys in the 70's who were buying 1000's of them in cases and it never raised a red flag back then.
Someones been watching too much Breaking Bad. Meth isn't blue as described in that fictional show.
Someones been watching too much Breaking Bad. Meth isn't blue as described in that fictional show.
Posters like you make this such a drag, you come here to bash and turn this into a bathroom wall
The stuff I watched people blowing in 1978 was indeed blue, so who do I believe you or my own eyes? I don't think chemistry has changed that much. These were guys getting advanced degrees in chemistry in college I wouldn't be suprised if they had access to the University's labs.
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They make it for the money.
There are no jobs, they are desperate, don't want to
loose their home, so they cook up some meth and sell it.
Sad, really, I think we need more jobs.
I'm serious.
I live in a small town and heroin and alcohol are the two biggest drugs. This town is great for a settled down person to start a family but for a young person it's absolutely boring.
So why would a town like that be good for a person to start a family? Would anyone in their right mind want their kids doing drugs as they are coming of age? Meth has killed those towns. Not only has it ruined kids lives and their parents lives, but it has brought a high crime rate which discourages people from coming to the town to settle.
Most of these towns are at least a couple hundred years old. People didn't do meth in those towns two hundred years ago, or a hundred years ago, or eighty years ago, or even fifty years ago, and life wasn't any less boring back then, was it? When and why did it start?
My theory is that the drugs came to these towns when the politicians sent all the jobs overseas.
Just as an aside. Oelwein was the principal hub of the Chicago Great Western Railroad, a secondary competitor to some of the bigger lines; it had access to several "places that counted". but could not generate enough business, or keep the physical plant well-enough maintained, to sustain itself. So it was sold to parallel Chicago and North Western in the late Sixties, and almost completely dismantled; the high-paying jobs left with it. Not the only cause of the problem and, despite the hype, not one the politicians can do much about, but it was a factor in the town's demise.
Posters like you make this such a drag, you come here to bash and turn this into a bathroom wall
The stuff I watched people blowing in 1978 was indeed blue, so who do I believe you or my own eyes? I don't think chemistry has changed that much. These were guys getting advanced degrees in chemistry in college I wouldn't be suprised if they had access to the University's labs.
- Boredom
- Not as many jobs, so a way to make money
- Relatively easy to make, and you can make it right in your community, no need to import it from surrounding towns/big cities
- Less jobs = less opportunity, so for many it is an outlet to get their mind off of the boredom/depression
If rat poison was "easy to make" would they take that too?
Dumb, dumb people.
"Survival of the fittest."
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