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View Poll Results: After reading the OP in full, what is your take on the current state of pain medication prescription
Pain relief medications are "too severely restricted" for legitimate patients? 120 71.86%
Pain relief medications restrictions are “where they should be” for legitimate pain patients? 20 11.98%
Pain relief medications restrictions are “not restricted enough” for legitimate pain patients? 27 16.17%
Voters: 167. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 08-09-2018, 06:25 PM
 
Location: LEAVING CD
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We're in agreement about a lot of things but if you read Dreamland you might find it very interesting regarding the role (and culpability) of pharmaceutical companies regarding opiates. If you read it I'd love to hear what you think of it.
As a couple of Pharmacists have repeatedly told me "Drug manufacturers knew full well that Oxy was highly addictive when they invented it and yet advertised it as something else"...
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Old 08-09-2018, 06:48 PM
 
Location: Middle of the valley
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Most of what I have read / listened to says it is clear that the company who makes it was complicit in down playing the addictive nature. They marketed the slow release as less addictive due to not delivering a big "high" at the onset, but slowly released.
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Old 08-09-2018, 07:51 PM
 
Location: Wonderland
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As a couple of Pharmacists have repeatedly told me "Drug manufacturers knew full well that Oxy was highly addictive when they invented it and yet advertised it as something else"...
RIGHT. And they were sued, and they lost. THEY WERE GUILTY. And by the time they were called to task, the cat had been let out of the bag and the downward cycle had begun.

The reason I keep recommending the book Dreamland is because it really gets into ALL facets of blame, if you will - from pharmaceutical companies, to doctors, and pain clinics, to legislation, to the patients/consumers themselves, to the drug traffickers. There's enough blame to go around, believe me. This particular book doesn't demonize any one group unfairly - it's just trying to get to the root causes (plural) of the US opiate problem.

Because we DO have a serious problem, whether people agree with that assessment or not. The emergency responder logs attest to that, if nothing else.
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Old 08-09-2018, 08:02 PM
 
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For pain relief why do so many choose an opiod pain killer instead of an aspirin or a Tylenol?


I sure hope you never have major surgery, cancer or a horrible illness.
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Old 08-09-2018, 08:12 PM
 
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I sure hope you never have major surgery, cancer or a horrible illness.
Right? DH just had shoulder surgery and if the doctor told him to go and take two aspirin (tylenol, whatever...), I would have punched him in the throat.
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Old 08-10-2018, 12:39 AM
 
Location: interior Alaska
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Most of what I have read / listened to says it is clear that the company who makes it was complicit in down playing the addictive nature. They marketed the slow release as less addictive due to not delivering a big "high" at the onset, but slowly released.
I was reading somewhere that the slow-release coating actually backfired, because people chasing highs went from swallowing the pills to snorting them, and the latter feeds an addiction more intensely.
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Old 08-10-2018, 09:08 AM
 
Location: Wine Country
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For pain relief why do so many choose an opiod pain killer instead of an aspirin or a Tylenol?
Clearly you have never been in excruciating pain. Get back to us you have experienced it.
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Old 08-10-2018, 09:56 AM
 
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Right? DH just had shoulder surgery and if the doctor told him to go and take two aspirin (tylenol, whatever...), I would have punched him in the throat.
Amen.

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Clearly you have never been in excruciating pain. Get back to us you have experienced it.
Right? What's next? A plush towel to bite on?
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Old 08-10-2018, 11:03 AM
 
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Clearly you have never been in excruciating pain. Get back to us you have experienced it.
In addition to that, Tylenol is the main cause of acute liver failure. It is often combined with many narcotic painkillers- Norco usually has 325mg per pill of acetaminophen, for example, but if you are popping back tons of Tylenol, you quickly get up to the 4000 daily limit. Many people who OD on opioids are actually having issues with the acetaminophen and not necessarily the the opioids themselves because they are taking them AND Tylenol.
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Old 08-10-2018, 01:55 PM
 
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In addition to that, Tylenol is the main cause of acute liver failure. It is often combined with many narcotic painkillers- Norco usually has 325mg per pill of acetaminophen, for example, but if you are popping back tons of Tylenol, you quickly get up to the 4000 daily limit. Many people who OD on opioids are actually having issues with the acetaminophen and not necessarily the the opioids themselves because they are taking them AND Tylenol.
This!

Most people don't know this...
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