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Old 09-21-2023, 10:44 AM
 
Location: Juneau, AK + Puna, HI
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Talking about the dangers of smoking is a major reason WHY so few U.S. residents smoke. Raising awareness of it led to the laws that ban it from workplaces, bars, and restaurants, as well as to the heavy taxes on it that put it out of reach of a lot of people. I hope people never stop talking about it...
Absolutely.

My father smoked for a few years in the late 40's and 50's, before there were warnings about the health hazards of cigarettes. He figured it out for himself, quit cold turkey before getting married.

It's surprising that the genius J. Robert Oppenheimer didn't figure out smoking was bad for his health. He was reputed to smoke 100 cigarettes a day and died at age 62 of throat cancer.

I was curious about his height and weight since he was obviously a slender fellow. My source said 5'10" and 115 lbs. He probably didn't eat much, just kept his brain cranking along with the nicotine.
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Old 09-21-2023, 03:40 PM
 
Location: home state of Myrtle Beach!
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Talking about the dangers of smoking is a major reason WHY so few U.S. residents smoke. Raising awareness of it led to the laws that ban it from workplaces, bars, and restaurants, as well as to the heavy taxes on it that put it out of reach of a lot of people. I hope people never stop talking about it.

That said, smoking is absolutely one of the worst things can do to your body. It causes all kinds of inflammatory conditions, puts a strain on your heart by narrowing your blood vessels, and is a known cause of both cancer and heart disease.

To the person who said "heart disease is the number 1 killer," yes, that is true--and a lot of that comes from smoking, in addition to obesity and type 2 diabetes, and, as in my case, crappy genetics (thanks, Dad). And it is a far more avoidable cause of death than obesity. You can choose not to smoke in the first place, so that you can never get addicted to it, and with the proper tools, you can quit so that you don't smoke at all. You cannot forego food entirely, and overweight and obesity are far more complex physically, psychologically, and socially than I can explain here without going off-topic.

Frankly, I think smoking, including vaping, oughta be outlawed entirely. There is absolutely nothing redeeming about smoking from a health perspective, and vaping is even worse, not only because it delivers a bigger hit of nicotine (thus prompting more dependence on it), but because of all the heavy metals and ingredients that are inhaled that are not only not FDA-approved for human exposure that way but downright destructive to your lungs.
I had smoked cigarettes for well over 35 years before switching to vape 13 years ago. I have had several lung cancer scans in the last 4 or 5 years and all have been clear, including the last one last month. I don't vape Juul, or any of the other name brand vapes on the market today. Those did not exist when I switched to vape 13 years ago. I know all 3 ingredients in my vape liquid and with the results of those scans I'm confident vape does not harm the body the same way cigarettes do. Without vapes I would still be smoking cigarettes today, if I were still alive after continuing to do so for another 13 years!
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Old 09-21-2023, 04:44 PM
 
Location: Florida
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Our doctor told my late husband the weight would kill him fast and the smoking will kill him slow.

He died at 43. Smoking and carrying too much weight.
OMG so sorry to hear that. I needed to hear it.

My BMI has gone from 19 to 31 after quitting smoking January of the pandemic.


Quitting grazing food to replace cigarettes while home all day is just a ridiculous task.

But I guess I'm not surprised that visceral deadly fat!
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Old 09-28-2023, 02:48 PM
 
Location: Redwood City, CA
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I had smoked cigarettes for well over 35 years before switching to vape 13 years ago. I have had several lung cancer scans in the last 4 or 5 years and all have been clear, including the last one last month. I don't vape Juul, or any of the other name brand vapes on the market today. Those did not exist when I switched to vape 13 years ago. I know all 3 ingredients in my vape liquid and with the results of those scans I'm confident vape does not harm the body the same way cigarettes do. Without vapes I would still be smoking cigarettes today, if I were still alive after continuing to do so for another 13 years!

And you don't have COPD? Well, everybody's different.
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Old 09-28-2023, 08:16 PM
 
Location: home state of Myrtle Beach!
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And you don't have COPD? Well, everybody's different.
No. In fact doctor made a point of saying "no copd".
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Old 10-09-2023, 07:42 AM
 
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Although only about 10% of US residents smoke, some in the medical field talk as if smoking is the nation's biggest health problem. Why? Maybe they are a disproportionate number of the patients?
Perhaps among sick people, more people are affected by smoking?
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Old 10-09-2023, 05:09 PM
 
Location: New York Area
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Perhaps among sick people, more people are affected by smoking?
Or perhaps because more sick people are smokers.
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Old 10-10-2023, 10:36 PM
 
Location: San Francisco Bay Area
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ironically it's been found that smoking helps with covid. in the lungs the bioweapon has less places to attack -- the smoke products occupy many of the landing spots. crazy stuff
Source, please.
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Old 10-10-2023, 10:38 PM
 
Location: San Francisco Bay Area
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Actually... No. The research that was so widely misinterpreted had to do with nicotine, not smoking.

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41533-021-00223-1

https://www.thelancet.com/journals/l...258-2/fulltext

https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/art...crease-in-risk

By far, smoking leads to terrible outcomes in people who get COVID, not only because of the damage it has already caused to the lungs, but because it is associated with high blood pressure and heart disease, both of which put people at high risk for bad outcomes.
Thank you for linking to factual articles.
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