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Actually the article states "and in some instances it seems to have triggered outbreaks or made existing conditions worse, for there are reports of warts suddenly appearing after vaccination on the face, hands, feet and chest. "
It says triggered OR made existing conditions worse, it leaves the possibility of infecting these girls with the very thing it is supposed to protect them from, wide open as a possibility.
Yes I can read as well as you. It says triggered, ie it was there to begin with, not infected. Its NOT a live vaccine - its a biological impossibility.
HPV is no picnic in the park folks. Most of you have it. Most of you can beat it. But if you or your loved ones contract HPV 16 or 18 (which are covered in the vaccine), be ready for a roller coaster ride.
Reliable in the way that 18 girls have died in a period time after having the vaccine, not reliable in that I dont think they have proved that the vaccine have caused all the deaths.
The difference between this vaccine and other vaccines is that this one HAS NOT BEEN STUDIED long enough and the actual side effects are not being talked about. Even ONE girl dying from this vaccine is too many, because again, the true side effects are not ebing disclosed. The number of deaths is now more than thirty, and in comparison with other vaccines, MORE adverse reactions are being reported, as well as MORE deaths in relation to this vaccine.
I will state again, that I see why this vaccine came in to play, the idea behind it may have been a good one, but the fact that they released it too soon and without being honest about makes my blood boil. I have never been anti vaccine, but this vaccine needs to be pulled until more information can be compiled. I will also say again, and this is extremely important, this vaccine does not prevent all strains of HPV and the single most important thing that MUST be done, whether or not you get this vaccine, is regular paps. This vaccine does not take the place of that, so why bother getting it? I will also state that if this is something that runs in your family, then that is a different situation, however, just one more time, the manufacterers still need to be honest about the side effects of this vaccine.
Yes I can read as well as you. It says triggered, ie it was there to begin with, not infected. Its NOT a live vaccine - its a biological impossibility.
I'm glad you can read! Congratulations! Now how about you spend some time reading my daughters medical records and all the things that have happened to her since having this poison injected in her, that, by the way, according to some, is an impossibility. Spend one day with one girl that has been effected by the poison and then you may sing a different tune.
I spend almost every waking hour of every single day trying to find a way to help my daughter get well after getting this vaccine.She is experiencing things that no girl her age should have to endure, and to come here looking for answers and to share our experience and then to get smart $$$ comments such as your above is uncalled for. I never attack or direct any comments TOWARDS another person, so be please be respectful and do the same.
This may be just a debate to you, but to me, this is my daughters life. there is plenty of evidence out there that this vaccine is killing our girls and harming them in unimaginable ways, you just have to look.
So, in your words, if it hasn't been around very long, how can you prove it's safe and that the side effects that have been reported ( yes, including the 78 cases of warts) AREN"T from this vaccine? You can't have it both ways.
I'm glad you can read! Congratulations! Now how about you spend some time reading my daughters medical records and all the things that have happened to her since having this poison injected in her, that, by the way, according to some, is an impossibility. Spend one day with one girl that has been effected by the poison and then you may sing a different tune.
I spend almost every waking hour of every single day trying to find a way to help my daughter get well after getting this vaccine.She is experiencing things that no girl her age should have to endure, and to come here looking for answers and to share our experience and then to get smart $$$ comments such as your above is uncalled for. I never attack or direct any comments TOWARDS another person, so be please be respectful and do the same.
This may be just a debate to you, but to me, this is my daughters life. there is plenty of evidence out there that this vaccine is killing our girls and harming them in unimaginable ways, you just have to look.
I'm not saying your daughter isn't suffering and i'm sorry she has been affected but i'm just stating facts. It IS a dead vaccine, it can't cause an HPV infection. I'm not saying it hasn't caused other effects to your daughter and others.
I also don't see anywhere that I have attacked you.
So, in your words, if it hasn't been around very long, how can you prove it's safe and that the side effects that have been reported ( yes, including the 78 cases of warts) AREN"T from this vaccine? You can't have it both ways.
Thanks for the link. I couldn't find it.
I've never said its safe, unsafe, and that side effects haven't been reported.
What I have stated is that the deaths I have read about have not been catagorically linked to the vaccine (from VAERS not other links). It has been around long enough to go through clinical trials just like all other medications/vaccinations.
Any person who has sex with anyone who has had sex before is at risk. Risk does go up with the amount of partners but its still a risk. Also one of the STDs that is NOT 100% prevented by condoms.
I wish people would stop trying to imply that its slutty behavior that causes it and their perfect children are not at risk.
I did not imply that HPV is caused by "slutty behavior." In this day and age, you should insist that your sexual partners be screened for diseases, period. Condoms are not 100% effective against ANYTHING. Would you have sex with a person who was HIV positive, even with a condom? I know that I personally would not. If someone knows that their partner is HPV positive, and it is one of the two strains that can be prevented by Gardasil, then they can make an informed decision to have the vaccine.
To give an untested and potentially very dangerous vaccine to a nine-year-old because she *might* have unprotected sexual relations (and yes, I'm aware that behaviors other than intercourse can result in HPV) with someone who is carrying one of the two strains of HPV that may or may not result in cervical cancer is a stretch, and to promote it to all nine year old girls (and possibly very soon, boys), is a money-making scheme.
I did not imply that HPV is caused by "slutty behavior." In this day and age, you should insist that your sexual partners be screened for diseases, period. Condoms are not 100% effective against ANYTHING.
I totally agree with you on this. Anything else is madness.
As for the risky = slutty. I still think there are so many people who think that if they (or their children) are not having sex with 50 different people they are safe. Its the exact same when HIV started ie only gay/prostitutes/drug users should worry.
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