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I'm just curious ... not challenging ... just wondering.
How do surgeons deal with that issue?
Do they change their mask every 15 minutes?
Well, they're not ill, for one thing. For another, they use different kinds of masks, and if they DO cough, they turn their heads away from the table. It is less of an issue if the wearer isn't ill, but more important is that they're not breathing right into the patient. There's also filtered air in OR suites.
Well, they're not ill, for one thing. For another, they use different kinds of masks, and if they DO cough, they turn their heads away from the table. It is less of an issue if the wearer isn't ill, but more important is that they're not breathing right into the patient. There's also filtered air in OR suites.
But i imagine that those masks would necessarily provide protection for the doctors (and nurses as well)?
Doesn't a surgeon need to protect himself even if the air is filtered?
And the dentists and dental hygienists where their masks for a long time while the patient is in the chair.
Aren't they wearing those masks for their own protection as well?
There is no rational reason to "avoid" those who have been immunized with FluMist unless one has a severely weakened immmune system...
So if you just had a bone marrow transplant, you should probably follow the above advice...
Otherwise, it would be perfectly safe to ignore everything in the previous post.
"Can people receiving the nasal-spray flu vaccine LAIV (FluMist®) pass the vaccine viruses to others?
In clinical studies, transmission of vaccine viruses to close contacts has occurred only rarely. The current estimated risk of getting infected with vaccine virus after close contact with a person vaccinated with the nasal-spray flu vaccine is low (0.6%-2.4%). " CDC - Seasonal Influenza (Flu) - Q & A: The Nasal-Spray Flu Vaccine (Live Attenuated Influenza Vaccine [LAIV])
Fact: You cannot get the flu from a FluMist vaccination. FluMist is a live, attenuated virus that cannot replicate at body temperature and cannot cause the flu. " Myths about FluMist outrunning the facts (12/17/04)
Let's clarify some things here, shall we?
Myth: "You can get the flu from FluMist"
Fact: You cannot get the flu from FluMist ..."
Then you include: "In clinical studies, transmission of vaccine viruses to close contacts has occurred only rarely. The current estimated risk of getting infected with vaccine virus after close contact with a person vaccinated with the nasal-spray flu vaccine is low (0.6%-2.4%)."
Therefore, the fact is that the clinical studies show up to 2.4% did become infected from shedding. But the 2.4 % shouldn't be considered worst case scenario since clinical safety studies which are financed by the manufacturer are designed to achieve the most desirable results, using healthy test subjects in a controlled environment. And these safety studies have been caught numerous times manipulating the results by leaving out unfavorable portions of the studies, among other tactics.
The manufacturer of FluMist has recently announced a joint venture with Wal Mart to serve as a mass vaccination point for distribution of the FluMist vaccine. Suffice it to say that such mass public vaccinations were not part of the clinical studies, nor is it possible to predict who among the Millions of daily shoppers at Wal Mart might fall into the category of the immunosuppressed who are at the greatest risk of such irresponsible exposure.
In addition, as reported by channel 7 news in Denver, area hospitals are shunning the FluMist vaccine for their staff personnel because of fears that it's use could pose danger of infection to their patients.
But simple virus infection isn't the only potential risk in using FluMist. Intranasel inoculation of flaviviruses (not a flu virus) have the potential to cause lethal encephalitis by directing infecting the brain through olfactory neurons transmitted through olfactory nerves.
Also, FluMist which is cultured in chicken eggs has the potential for being contaminated with avian retroviruses, and other pathogens which were not specifically tested for in the culture mediums. The vaccine also contains MSG.
More and more doctors around the world are now becoming concerned about the safety of h1n1 vaccines, including FluMist. Even those not specifically worried about the safety, are now questioning the necessity of massive vaccination programs that could create a pandemic in an otherwise non virulent and mild strain.
This entire Flu scare is a product of the pharmaceutical industry and the World Health Organization (WHO).
Just say no to this hype of the the "Who Flu", and of the profiteers who want to jam viruses up your nostrils.
Myth: "You can get the flu from FluMist"
Fact: You cannot get the flu from FluMist ..."
Then you include: "In clinical studies, transmission of vaccine viruses to close contacts has occurred only rarely. The current estimated risk of getting infected with vaccine virus after close contact with a person vaccinated with the nasal-spray flu vaccine is low (0.6%-2.4%)."
Therefore, the fact is that the clinical studies show up to 2.4% did become infected from shedding. But the 2.4 % shouldn't be considered worst case scenario since clinical safety studies which are financed by the manufacturer are designed to achieve the most desirable results, using healthy test subjects in a controlled environment. And these safety studies have been caught numerous times manipulating the results by leaving out unfavorable portions of the studies, among other tactics.
The manufacturer of FluMist has recently announced a joint venture with Wal Mart to serve as a mass vaccination point for distribution of the FluMist vaccine. Suffice it to say that such mass public vaccinations were not part of the clinical studies, nor is it possible to predict who among the Millions of daily shoppers at Wal Mart might fall into the category of the immunosuppressed who are at the greatest risk of such irresponsible exposure.
In addition, as reported by channel 7 news in Denver, area hospitals are shunning the FluMist vaccine for their staff personnel because of fears that it's use could pose danger of infection to their patients.
But simple virus infection isn't the only potential risk in using FluMist. Intranasel inoculation of flaviviruses (not a flu virus) have the potential to cause lethal encephalitis by directing infecting the brain through olfactory neurons transmitted through olfactory nerves.
Also, FluMist which is cultured in chicken eggs has the potential for being contaminated with avian retroviruses, and other pathogens which were not specifically tested for in the culture mediums. The vaccine also contains MSG.
More and more doctors around the world are now becoming concerned about the safety of h1n1 vaccines, including FluMist. Even those not specifically worried about the safety, are now questioning the necessity of massive vaccination programs that could create a pandemic in an otherwise non virulent and mild strain.
This entire Flu scare is a product of the pharmaceutical industry and the World Health Organization (WHO).
Just say no to this hype of the the "Who Flu", and of the profiteers who want to jam viruses up your nostrils.
Lets clarify further:
1. Transmission of "vaccine virus" does not equate to "transmitting flu"...
The attenuated virus found in FluMist is not capable of survival in the lower respiratory fact.
2. The "flavivirus causing encephalitis" is a bunch of hooey....no further response required.
3. All vaccines are cultured in chicken eggs, the potential for "retrovirus contamination" never been shown....also a bunch of hooey found in numerous anti vaccine sites, no mainstream sites however.
Where exactly is the conflict of interest with the CDC?
Those studies are absolutely valid....
Your steadfast support for the integrity of the CDC is laughable, and demonstrates the total absence of any credibility on your part.
The fact is, the CDC has been caught lying, again and again. They're so in-bed with the Pharmaceutical corps that NOTHING they publish or say can be taken as the truth. They've even been caught lying to congress.
Unfortunately, the CDC and FDA are so devoid of conscience and integrity, they withheld information discovered internally regarding a definitive link between autism and thimerosal in vaccines. This is no conspiracy theory ... this is documented fact.
This is definitive proof that the CDC will lie about drug safety, even when the health and safety of Millions of Children are concerned. All one needs to do is google "CCD caught lying" or "FDA caught lying". Very elementary stuff.
Why do you do this? Why support this corruption? What's your motive?
I have to admit, I did not read the entire thread. Nor am I an expert of any sort. In order to avoid the flu(any strain) this season, as I have done (successfully) in past flu seasons, I plan to:
Limit my contact with the pubic, whenever possible.
Wash/scrub hands frequently.
Avoid touching my nose/eyes/ears.
Eat a healthy and well-balanced diet.
Exercise for at least 30-min to 1 hr. per day. Outside, in fresh air, whenever possible.
Get 8 hrs. of sleep per night.
Drink either one mug of hot herbal tea or one glass of red wine before bedtime.
I may be cranky and old-fashioned, but this has worked well for me.
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