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Old 08-23-2015, 01:07 PM
 
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look constitution some of this is written here look up the book of Kells some changed after tore some parts of documents out. You totally don't get what I am writing and trying to put words into my mouth. I M talking history facts. I don't consider Google facts some are distortion sand some correct.
Declaration of Independence. Peoples brains have been washed here too much.
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Old 08-23-2015, 01:07 PM
 
Location: Parts Unknown, Northern California
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There is no power given to the federal government that gives them power outside 10 square miles of Washington, D.C. And District of Columbia. The constitution is to keep government in check and to protect citizens not to give government power its "we the people" we are the power and the government.
I believe that you are in need of a crash course in the structure of the US government, you are very much mistaken.

The Federal government has enumerated powers, listed in the Constitution, which apply to all of the states in the Union, not merely to the 10 square miles you reference. See Article I, Section 8 of the Constitution for the listing of the powers of Congress.

And the idea behind the Constitution was to do both of the things you list above, keep the government in check, and provide the central government with its assigned powers. It wasn't one or the other.
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Old 08-23-2015, 01:14 PM
 
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Each state is considered separate little countries inside a country as each state flies its own flag if a state house does not fly its own flag it is bad as it has been taken over by the Feds each state is supposed to have its own state flag flying on state grounds in every Capitol. We are still the United States of america
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Old 08-23-2015, 01:15 PM
 
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Let's all love one another as one country. We are the people and we make the rules.
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Old 08-23-2015, 01:17 PM
 
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And the Supreme Court was not supposed to be the end all it was supposed to be an equal branch of government. Look it up it is in constitution.
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Old 08-23-2015, 01:29 PM
 
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The federal government was only supposed to take care of parks, article 1 section 8 states
"To exercise exclusive Legislation in all cases whatsoever, over such District(not exceeding ten miles square)as May, byCession of particular States, and the acceptance of Congress, become the seat of the Government of The United States, and to exercise like all Authority over all places purchased by consent of the Legislature of thecState in which the same shall be, for the Erection of the Forts,Magazines, arsenals,dock-yards and other needful buildings and
To make all laws which shall be necessary and proper for carrying into execution the foregoing powers and all other powers vested by the constitution in the Government of The United States, or in any Department or office thereof".
Only laws written in constitution are legal laws.
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Old 08-23-2015, 01:37 PM
 
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Oh, boy, here we go.
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Old 08-23-2015, 01:38 PM
 
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The federal government was only supposed to take care of parks, article 1 section 8 states
"To exercise exclusive Legislation in all cases whatsoever, over such District(not exceeding ten miles square)as May, byCession of particular States, and the acceptance of Congress, become the seat of the Government of The United States, and to exercise like all Authority over all places purchased by consent of the Legislature of thecState in which the same shall be, for the Erection of the Forts,Magazines, arsenals,dock-yards and other needful buildings and
To make all laws which shall be necessary and proper for carrying into execution the foregoing powers and all other powers vested by the constitution in the Government of The United States, or in any Department or office thereof".
Only laws written in constitution are legal laws.
If that is the case then what about murder?
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Old 08-23-2015, 01:49 PM
 
Location: Sun City West, Arizona
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I recently had a discussion with another history-loving friend of mine on the topic of American nationality and the CSA. Some questions arose.

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2. The "Civil War" was a war for independence, right? Why has it been termed a "civil war" after the fact? This sounds akin to calling the American Revolution a civil war or the Dutch War of Independence against Spain a "Civil War". A Civil War is a war fought for control of a country, not secession. Is this an effort by us to forget that the CSA was forging another nation and bring together the country? Whats the deal?

3. Why do the former Confederate states seem to be the biggest "flag-wavers"? And by this I refer to the American aka USA flag. On the US ethnicity map, it is mostly in the former CSA where people refer to their ancestry only as "American". Why is this?

4. Why isn't the Confederate flag widely viewed as anti-american? Didn't CSA soldiers fight directly against men of the United States, flying the American flag and who had Abraham Lincoln, 15th president of the US as their leader? Was their cause not as "anti-American" as any other nation the US has combated? Wouldn't a loyalist in Canada who chose British rule over being part of the US be viewed as anti-American? Why not the Confederates? The Southerners who were not so keen on the idea of the CSA were mainly black Americans and white unionists who fought for the USA under the US flag etc., wouldn't it be reasonable to say they were "anti-Confederate"?

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I've always thought that a "civil war" was a war among people of the same country. Another example is the Spanish Civil War.

In terms of 3 and 4, by about 1900, Southerners were knee deep (hint, hint) in trying to redeem their history, and what had evolved was the "Lost Cause" concept. In this concept, they attempted to depict a different cause of the Civil War and to describe the pre-war culture of the South as genteel refinement (which in some ways it might have been...unless of course you were Black and enslaved -- the basest form of cruelty in world history (no matter where it occurred). Oddly enough, the biggest rebel flag wavers in the South today don't understand that, had they lived in the pre-Civil War days, the most they would have been in the Old South were tenant farmers or perhaps overseers. They ought to watch "Gone With The Wind" and realize they wouldn't have been among the Wilkes and O'Haras. Incidentally, although I deplore the "Lost Cause" concept, it is pretty much the basis of the book "Gone With The Wind".

Wikipedia has a pretty good and very readable section on the "Lost Cause" concept.
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Old 08-23-2015, 01:51 PM
 
Location: Sun City West, Arizona
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The war was about State's Rights (the South) versus Federal Supremacy (the North).

The Feds won, and now we have a Federal government that is more than 1/3 of the entire economy, and soon to be 100% under Obamanation.

The other issues (slavery, etc) were just red herrings to get the moronic masses behind a war they couldn't understand the real consequences of.
This thread is not about Obamacare. Stay on topic.
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