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It all started when the schools banned the Bible and God. Bring up a child in the way he should go and when he is old, he won't depart from it. This only works if the child is brought up right.
Of course, neither are banned in schools. What is prohibited is the peddling of religion by state authorities. What's ironic is that you assert that children need to be brought up right, but then claim that it has to be the state (ie, schools) that do it. Why? Because parents can't handle it? The hilarity of "The government, not parents, need to be the ones instilling religion in our kids!" being advanced as conservatism is hilarious!
By the way, with this fantasy of the good old days of yore before "God was banned"... ...you are undoubtedly whining about the 1963 Supreme Court decision that determined school-sponsored Bible readings to be unconstitutional. Note that this did not affect personal and private Bible reading/study/etc. on school grounds (as so explicitly spelled out by the Clinton Administration, ironically yet another boogeyman of the "God has been banned!" crowd). William J. Clinton: Memorandum on Religious Expression in Public Schools
But back to 1963. What was the top marginal tax rate then? 91%. And in 2016? 39.6%. Now what were you saying about the halcyon days of yesteryear when the Bible was drilled into the minds of the children by the government, and how that supposedly relates to personal responsibility and things like economic freedom?
What all started? Communism? Communism started 'way before then.
Any Christian parent who claims "It all started when the schools banned the Bible and God" is a lousy Christian parent. They have far more time to be bringing up their children "in the way they should go" than a 20 second rote recitation of the Lord's Prayer is going to do.
Interestingly enough--and instructively for Christian parents--the very child that Supreme Court decision was fought over, the very child whose atheist mother did not want to hear prayer in school, later became a Christian himself...anyway.
You don't have a clue. How long do children stay at school? How much time do parents and church get them for? Think about it. I memorized the 23rd Psalm in public school in the third grade. I had a library patron tell me his teacher would not allow him to use the Bible (in other words the Bible was censored as a source of information) because he had to use something more concrete. Children are being taught the Bible is not true and we are paying teachers tax money to teach them that.
Our children have not had the experience to see how horrible communism is because the "wall" was torn down in the 80's.
College professors used to have to be respectable people. We still have some respectable ones but they are getting fewer and further between the corrupt.
Interestingly enough--and instructively for Christian parents--the very child that Supreme Court decision was fought over, the very child whose atheist mother did not want to hear prayer in school, later became a Christian himself...anyway.
That happened with Roe v Wade, too, where the woman who led to the legalization of abortion (via judicial legislation) is now anti-abortion.
You don't have a clue. How long do children stay at school? How much time do parents and church get them for? Think about it. I memorized the 23rd Psalm in public school in the third grade. I had a library patron tell me his teacher would not allow him to use the Bible (in other words the Bible was censored as a source of information) because he had to use something more concrete. Children are being taught the Bible is not true and we are paying teachers tax money to teach them that.
Our children have not had the experience to see how horrible communism is because the "wall" was torn down in the 80's.
College professors used to have to be respectable people. We still have some respectable ones but they are getting fewer and further between the corrupt.
I'm sorry, "use the bible" for what? A research paper? Unless the homework was on 'the basis of Christian thought', what exactly can you use the bible for in school?
Not sure why this thread drifted off towards religion and the Constitution but anyways I have seen the following difference between social democrat Europe and the US is... the degree of religion or secularism.
The more secular European nations put more emphasis on having a good life on earth for most people whereas the more religious people in the US put more emphasis on achieving a good status in the next life while sacrificing in this one. So Americans are more ok with the government not redistributing wealth, working 30% more hours and until death, having no safety net, defending 15% max tax rate for hedge fund managers etc.
The more secular European nations put more emphasis on having a good life on earth for most people
It's not "secular" versus "religious," except tangentially. The reason I say that is because Europe was quite religious. The main driving force towards communism is liberalism, which paves the way by opposing religion and then driving towards socialism and communism. And the irony is that liberalism essentially springs forth from the prosperity that it destroys, so it's essentially cyclical.
In order for any society to accept liberal beliefs, it has to be so prosperous that it can afford to be liberal. In other words, it has to accept people not working and yet being supported perpetually by the government and it has to accept an ever-growing government service and government force. In Europe, the factor that led to their prosperity was the total destruction of Europe followed by America essentially rebuilding it for them, as well as America taking on the total defense budget of Europe. Liberals point to the prosperity of Europe and claim that it was due to liberal policies, but that's their revisionism at work. In point of fact, they started out with a pile of money and then slowly and inevitably spent it all. We're now coming towards the end of that cycle, as many European countries are hitting their breaking points financially.
That can also be seen in America, where you start out with very prosperous states, such as California, which were not dominated by liberal beliefs. Then, as their prosperity allowed for liberalism to take hold, the states were progressively destroyed and bankrupted. That's always the cycle with liberalism, socialism, and communism.
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...you are undoubtedly whining about the 1963 Supreme Court decision that determined school-sponsored Bible readings to be unconstitutional. Note that this did not affect personal and private Bible reading/study/etc. on school grounds (as so explicitly spelled out by the Clinton Administration, ironically yet another boogeyman of the "God has been banned!" crowd). 