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Old 09-04-2008, 01:05 PM
 
Location: Brooklyn
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Capital cities, beef...how much are these things going to matter if the world actually does come to an end? In the event that the Mayans knew something we don't, I have a feeling there's not much anyone can do.
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Old 09-05-2008, 09:53 PM
 
Location: Iowa
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Oh please, Omaha is more Centrally located, maybe we can have a double capital like they do in South Africa or Bolivia, and what will Nebraska be? We have the most beef
Well, I suppose we could throw you Wyoming. Your beef consumes corn that will be needed to feed a hungry nation, beef will be too expensive for most outlanders. And besides, much more corn will be needed for fuel, to maintain the high living standards of the midwest confederation.

The Dakota's will have to look twards Montana and Saskatchewan for their expansion territory, and northern Minnesota will need to think about Manitoba and Ontario. South Minnesota from aprox 45 degrees and points south will be annexed to Iowa, as well as portions of Missouri north of the missouri river. Kansas City will also be appropiated, but they shall retain St. Louis. We were cheated the first time around when the borders were drawn, so its only fair that we use our new ethanol tanks to take back our property and bonus territory.

Illinois will be a powerfull rival in the confederation as corn and soybean production comes close to that of Iowa. The mississippi river will have to be mined and our new razor subs will prevent an Illinois sneak attack. Therfore, it will dispatch its power to the south and east but not infringe upon the great lakes rule under Commander Favre , as they produce the beer and will have immense power.

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Old 09-06-2008, 12:57 PM
 
Location: Iowa
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Since Idaho has a monopoly over the french fry market, America will have to yield to their demands. Washington and Oregon will fall under their wing, and microsoft will relocate to Boise.

California's bread basket will fall under jurisdiction of the mexican maffia, and will be used to feed Mexico. Mexico will overtake Nevada and Arizona as well.

Texas will cut off its oil supply to the nation, for its own domestic use, and for trade with the Midwest Confederation. It will become a regional superpower, and oversee every state that borders it, and portions of Mexico.

Florida's great food surplus will allow it to rule the southeast with an iron fist. Georgia and South Carolina will annexed, but Mississippi and Alabama's cotton production will allow them to run the textile markets and remain independent. To meet its energy needs, the Florida Republic will invade Cuba and take over the sugar cane fields for ethanol production.

Virginia and North Carolina will have free reign over the tobacco markets, and all tobacco taxes will be revoked. Trade with the Midwest Confederation and Florida Republic will allow it to retain a cushy lifestyle.

Illinois and Indiana will team up to bring most of the northeast under administration of the Midwest Confederation. Toronto and Montreal will liquidated by Commander Favre, and its booty sent back to Green Bay for the pleasure and consumption of the Midwest Confederation.
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Old 09-07-2008, 04:03 PM
 
Location: Iowa
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After the collapse of the dollar in 2010, Washington DC power fades quickly, and the appalacians move in that winter to supply the coastal cities of the northeast with coal. Boston and New York's wealth is slowly drained away as the appalacians become rich beyond their wildest dreams. They take over New Jersey for badly needed food supplies, causing the hungry Boston/New York sprawl to turn twards the midwest for relief.

President Obama agrees to move the new capital to Des Moines. A loose agreement developes among the states to have a weak central government and allow the states to do as they please. Purchasing power of the new currency is very limited and imported goods are now unaffordable. John Deere seizes control of heavy industry and automotive manufacturing. John Deere oversees the new leading defense contractor, Massey Ferguson. The appalacians keep the coal flowing to the plants and disaster is averted.

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Old 09-07-2008, 05:31 PM
 
Location: in my house
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Between mid to late 2009 and mid to late 2012, the U.S. will see the next Great Depression and the deflation of the “three bears,” bubbles in stocks, housing, and commodities. This occurrence will represent the de-leveraging of the greatest credit bubble in history and will have much greater effects than we have seen thus far on banking and financial systems. Americans will see the first and last “Great Depression” of most of our lifetimes. Most people simply are not prepared for this coming dramatic change in our economy. Aging Baby Boomers will see the worst of the economy in their retirement years, much as the Bob Hope generation saw the worst in their early years in the 1930s and in World War II on an 80-year generational cycle."
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Old 09-07-2008, 11:04 PM
 
Location: Iowa
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In early 2011, the Tennessee & Kentucky Railroad merges with West Virginia Rail Lines, and a new company, is formed, to fufill a desperate need to transport goods and people around the country. Diesel, jet fuel and gasoline are in such short supply, and so expensive, that the nation grinds to a halt.
Alternative energy sources are not yet able to fulfill demand.

The T & K railroad begins to produce coal fired steam locomotives. They begin to proffit, but notice that the nations rail lines are in terrible condition and need to be updated. They need hard workers to labor on the tracks and build bridges. Their richest source of inexpensive labor comes from the recruting offices located on Wall Street in New York City. A new workers training camp is built on Chappaquiddick island for the new recruits from Boston and Newport. The railroad workers or "Noolies" work hard traveling coast to coast rebuilding track and building infrastructure of all types.

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Old 09-09-2008, 06:41 PM
 
Location: Iowa
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After Toronto is looted and sacked by Commander Favre in 2011, displaced canadian health care professionals are shipped on the MC destroyer SS Iowa, to Green Bay (the real motive for the invasion). They are transported under armed guard (for protection from insurance company assassins) to Des Moines. In a bloodless coup, the middle class round up all the insurance people trying to stop the canadian UHC plan, and they are exiled to Alaska.

Meanwhile, in Alaska, the population is very cozy burning their oil and eating their fish. They pipe just enough oil south to keep the french fries and wheat flour rolling north on the T & K. When the ousted Des Moines insurance commission arrives, they begin their plot to force people to buy hurricane and crop insurance. Public officials are bribed and rumors of internal strife breaks out in the land of Palin. Russian spies hear of this and report back to Moscow

Sensing the time is right, the russians cross the open arctic ocean, and spill into the oil fields near Prudoe Bay, Alaska. Just by chance, the Idaho state militia was stationed in what was northern Brittish Columbia the year before. Under command of General Randy Weaver and Lieutenant Mark Ferman, with assistance from Chuck Norris and Clint Eastwood, a can of whoop ass in opened up on the russians. The new weapons systems manufactured by Massey Ferguson prove to be very effective. They are forced to retreat back to Kamchacka, having stolen only one tankers worth of oil and 50 cases of vodka.

Unfortunatly, John McCain was captured by the russians and spent 3 more years in a POW camp. There, he survived from the fat reserves in his cheeks, and eventually escaped and ran for president in 2016 becoming our 45th president. The evil insurance demons were rounded up, once again, and sent without trial to Guantanamo Bay, Florida.

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Old 09-10-2008, 04:51 PM
 
Location: Iowa
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After the stock exchange is moved to Kansas City in Nov 2011, the brisk NE winds compell Governor Romney to move his hair, wife and children to greener pastures in Utah. That same month, T Boone Pickens was sitting around playing his banjo, when he got a call from a friend in Dallas that works for Texico. His friend warned him that he was about to be indicted by the state of Texas on charges of treason for his freakish energy obsession with wind and solar. He called his friend Al Gore, whom was in trouble back home for trying to blow up a coal mine. They both decided to take it on the lamb and head for Utah, where they met at Salt Lake City.

Soon the "Utah Counsel of Alternative Green Energy Doctrine and Covenantces of Latter Day Saint Commission" is formed to deal with the energy demands of a swelling population of California anglo refugees. There is little separation of chuch and state in Utah at this time in history. The missionaries set up schools at the refugee camps to convert them back to christianity before they are released. Most of them seek work in the scrub basins putting up vast wind mill and solar farms.

The energy is needed to keep the new electric border fence well lighted and guarded, and to keep the ground sensors operational. Romney is elected national head of border security and now has over 3000 miles of border to control. The overworked Romney dies from a heart attack in 2014, when escaped POW John McCain returns to take over his position. This helps seal his presidential bid for the 2016 election.

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Old 09-12-2008, 12:29 PM
 
Location: Cushing OK
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Capital cities, beef...how much are these things going to matter if the world actually does come to an end? In the event that the Mayans knew something we don't, I have a feeling there's not much anyone can do.
Less likely than the sudden end is a decline. Every civilization has experienced that unless some outside force destroyed them before they could. The Mayan's were already in sharp decline when the Spanish arrived so they had a bit of both.

There are a lot of people who look at our current American culture and civilization and see a drawing down. Infrastructures are getting older and more vulnerable. Nobody is fixing them. The things that tie society together are slipping and a greater amount of people are pessimistic about the future. And there area far more "closet" survivialists out there than anyone knows. Its even getting to be popular.

But I recently moved out of the surburban sprawl because its declining so fast. When TEOTWAWKI (the end of the world as we know it) comes I don't want to be where the gangs and druggies take over in a few hours, or already have and most just don't know it.

There is nothing wrong with thinking out the possibilities. Disastors happen anyway. Wanting to be in a good spot with an edge doesn't mean you are sure its here tomorrow.
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Old 09-12-2008, 06:08 PM
 
Location: Iowa
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The best economists of the day gather in Chicago the summer of 2010 to erect a new federal reserve system. It is decided that the new currency was to be backed up by grain and commodities so that its value can be trusted. Other forms of currency are allowed to keep goods and services moving.

States are discouraged from printing their own money, but some do. Precious metal coinage, stocks in mining and oil companies are printed for them in Chicago with proper security featurs to prevent counterfeiting. The grain, kernal, bushel, hind quarter and heffer become denominations of the new currency. Stockpiles of all are kept in storage facilities spread throught the country, for any whom want to trade their paper for the real thing.

Anyway, I cast my gaze now to the murky swamps of Florida, as we see many angry cubans in Miami straining at the leash to free thier home island and run it the way they please. But they lack the capital and power needed to convince the cubans that they will be better off as Florida-American citizens, free to travel anywhere in Cuba AND Miami. The island of Cuba demands that one pre 1973 classic american automobile must be delivered to EVERY adult cuban or they will sue for war. They also want jobs, and are promised by the state of Florida that they will have them.

About this time, Hillary Clinton has been working as an administrator for the appalacians, at the Kopechne training center for Noolies on Chappaquiddick Island. She has learned much about infrastructure, and gets a call from the Florida goverment with a offer she cant refuse. She will be counted this time.

After a meeting in Tallahassee with the Florida government, a state order issues all classic cars are to be impounded. You would think this would bring outrage, but nobody has any gas to put in them. Temperatures that winter dropped below 42 degrees several nights in a row, leaving the floridians shivering near death. They need energy and know where to get it.

Thus, the "Southeast National Ethanol & Sugar Correctional Facility" is born, after the cubans are delivered the automobiles, and after the noolies and cubans finish the project under Hillary Clinton's management. Every state in the country now sends its criminals to Florida to work off their sentences, free of charge, after a new John Deere Automobile is delivered to those that had their cars impounded. Hillary becomes a benevolent warden over the widespread facility, hiring cuban workers to guard the inmates. She makes sure the inmates work hard and are treated fairly.

Later that year, Georgia and South Carolina are invaded and all classic cars are impounded and delivered to the state of Florida.

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