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I don't even get the kids playing in cul de sac thing. Having spent many years delivering pizza and other stuff to residential areas including to many cul de sacs, that was one of the most irritating things. Getting yelled at by the little delinquent's parents for driving too fast, even though I was well within the speed limit, running over toys left laying in the street, difficulty turning around because the end of the cul de sac was blocked off with road cones, ropes, or other barricades so the kiddies could use it as a playground. It's a totally inappropriate use of a public right a way.
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Originally Posted by Hopes
God forbid the pizza delivery drivers are inconvenienced.
As a resident and homeowner on the cul-de-sac, it IS inconvenient to have to dodge whatever equipment and toys are left in the street by these disrespectful children. If I have to pay property taxes to educate those little brats, I should have a say in where they are allowed to play!
It is idiotic to let children play in streets. Just Google the phrase children killed playing in street and see the results of children playing in the street.
Parents that let their children play in the street, should be charged for child endangerment and fined at least $1,000, and their children put under the protection of the state who would regularly check on the parents to see if they are still letting their child play in the street. If their child is killed or seriously injured by an auto when playing in the street, the parents should be sentenced to 5 years in prison.
As far as Home Owners Associations, they are the way most new subdivisions will go. The cities today, almost require them to get a subdivision approved. In a HOA subdivision, the city lets the HOA take care of things like maintaining the streets in the subdivision, etc. It makes it cheaper on the other tax payers in the city and helps the city budget.
Streets are public right of ways for vehicle traffic only. They are not public playgrounds. The liabilities of children playing in them are tremendous.
I know of someone who ran over a kid who darted out from between parked cars from a game of hide and seek. They were driving 25mph & the kids could not be seen by traffic in the area. That person was devastated and lives with that memory forever. Police gave all the kids parents a good lecture and warning they'd get cited if the street playing continued.
One would hope that the parents would have learned by their child being run over. Sadly, that's frequently not the case. They're incredibly lucky the child didn't die!
I feel for your friend. That has to be very difficult to live with. I can't imagine you ever get over it.
Good heavens kids have been playing in the street since forever -- whiffle ball, street hockey, tossing, footballs, riding bikes, hopscotch, jump rope, etc...even in big cities like Boston, NYC, Chicago, Newark NJ, Atlanta, Washington DC. And somehow the population of America hasn't killed itself off. Another reason NOT to live under an HOA.
As a resident and homeowner on the cul-de-sac, it IS inconvenient to have to dodge whatever equipment and toys are left in the street by these disrespectful children. If I have to pay property taxes to educate those little brats, I should have a say in where they are allowed to play!
probably the same sentiment your neighbors had when you were growing up and THEY paid for YOUR education....
Streets are public right of ways for vehicle traffic only. They are not public playgrounds. The liabilities of children playing in them are tremendous.
I know of someone who ran over a kid who darted out from between parked cars from a game of hide and seek. They were driving 25mph & the kids could not be seen by traffic in the area. That person was devastated and lives with that memory forever. Police gave all the kids parents a good lecture and warning they'd get cited if the street playing continued.
About 4 years ago something similar happened in this area. The kid was riding his skateboard down his driveway, which was on a hill down toward the street and was not able to stop in time to avoid flying into the street. This is the first article I could find and was not very complete, but if memory serves, there was a car also parked in the street which blocked the driver's view and even though she was apparently below the 25 mph speed limit, the child was killed. (I am not entirely sure, but I think he actually ran into the side of her car) The woman driving was a neighbor that lived a few doors down and was devastated.
The same street had been the source of friction previously where neighbors had asked for speed humps or other traffic calming devices to be put in due to the thought that drivers were going too fast for the number of kids that played unsupervised in the street. I actually jog down this street fairly often and there are no speed humps there now and there are often cars parked on the street still.
Nope, I didn't play in the street, wasn't allowed....AND I've worked 13+ years and contributed my share of taxes to pay for MY education.
If you contributed enough in the last 13+years to pay for your education, I'm sure these kids are doing the same.
When I graduated from high school 40+ years ago, I had not yet paid any taxes to support my education until that point. Older people had done that for me. So since then it has been my responsibility and pleasure to help provide that same opportunity to the next generations.
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