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Old 01-18-2019, 09:12 AM
 
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You are lucky to catch this now. Our builder did some really horrible work. The inspector did not catch it. Ten years later, the problems started to manifest. We are out of luck. Even if the builder is still in business, it is too late to pursue them and they likely have no assets anyway. Only thing we can do is pay to fix the problems.
Very true, shoddy construction could take years before it manifests into a problem and it could end up being a very costly one at that point in time.
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Old 01-18-2019, 12:28 PM
 
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How does a house not sit on the foundation if the plans are accurate?


Or how does the foundation not "fit" the house, if the plans are accurate?


So you have a "miss".


Are the plans accurate, or did the builder screw it up?


Ask builder to fix it by lifting the house and re-pouring the foundation (and new footings?)--likely just doubling the walls in the places where they "miss".


If he balks, or comes up with some half assed solution, then you need to get a lawyer involved.


Just hard to believe the house and foundation don't align.... but every day brings a new adventure when it comes to contractors and building houses.


Might be time for a new builder.....
The whole problem is the foundation was not installed properly, and it does not have a flat, level surface to support the building. The building itself, will not work right on a poorly built foundation.
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Old 01-18-2019, 01:31 PM
 
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The whole problem is the foundation was not installed properly, and it does not have a flat, level surface to support the building. The building itself, will not work right on a poorly built foundation.
Ok, trying to understand the issue. What you saying is that the top of the concrete walls are not level and flat so now the sill plate ( which takes the load of the house ) does not have full bearing on the foundation wall!

Is that the issue?

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Old 01-18-2019, 02:10 PM
 
Location: Johns Creek, GA
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The whole problem is the foundation was not installed properly, and it does not have a flat, level surface to support the building. The building itself, will not work right on a poorly built foundation.


Wow! That's pretty impressive from one post (and pretty vague), and no pictures.

If I only had osmosis like that!????
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Old 01-18-2019, 08:41 PM
 
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You are lucky to catch this now. Our builder did some really horrible work. The inspector did not catch it. Ten years later, the problems started to manifest. We are out of luck. Even if the builder is still in business, it is too late to pursue them and they likely have no assets anyway. Only thing we can do is pay to fix the problems.
What issues did you find? Just had mine built. May be good to list stuff I want to watch for if you would be game to share.
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Old 01-18-2019, 09:05 PM
 
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We are currently building a custom home in Texas. The Builder is horrendous. We've had unbelievable experience that is too lengthy to go into. The biggest problem I'm facing is the foundation. We discovered the framing is not sitting properly on the foundation so there needs to be a repair involving doweling in rebar adding a deep ledge and covering with non shrinking grout. We've discovered the builder failed to schedule the required pre-pour inspection for the engineered foundation. Can the foundation be warranted with the customary builder purchased 1-2-10 new home structural warranty? From what I've researched these types of builder purchased warranty's require a pre-pour inspection called a level 1 inspection as well as a final inspection at move in before they issue a warranty to the home owner. Anyone run in to this problem?
How did the city approve the pre-pour inspection? They normally wouldn't approve the pour if foundation is not ready to be poured.
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Old 01-18-2019, 10:25 PM
 
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How did the city approve the pre-pour inspection? They normally wouldn't approve the pour if foundation is not ready to be poured.
This is the key question if the city or county, whoever issues the building permit, performs inspections at key times during the building process which preclude further work until the construction is deemed acceptable. Not all jurisdictions do so which would give me pause to enter into a contract in such an area at least without a plan to employ an engineer to perform periodic inspections and the contract worded to create benchmarks prior to going forward.
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Old 01-19-2019, 04:50 AM
 
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This is the key question if the city or county, whoever issues the building permit, performs inspections at key times during the building process which preclude further work until the construction is deemed acceptable. Not all jurisdictions do so which would give me pause to enter into a contract in such an area at least without a plan to employ an engineer to perform periodic inspections and the contract worded to create benchmarks prior to going forward.
Exactly what I stated in an earlier response; if the sill plate does not have full bearing on the foundation wall, that should have easily been detected during a framing inspection, if the house has a basement, perhaps not?

Obviously this could not not been seen during a pre-pour inspection since the concrete gets placed after the formwork and reinforced gets inspected. Without seeing the issue we are just guessing.
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Old 01-19-2019, 02:28 PM
 
Location: Minnesota
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Even if city inspector oks it after the fact doesn't mean it was done correctly. Ask my nephew. Inspector ok'd work that wasn't done even close to proper and inspector signed off. Basement/ foundation totally torn up and re built after lengthy arbitration where no one would admit fault.
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Old 01-19-2019, 08:49 PM
 
Location: Grosse Ile Michigan
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What issues did you find? Just had mine built. May be good to list stuff I want to watch for if you would be game to share.
One wall had no insulation in it.

Several doors were hung improperly.

Hardwood floor was shimmed to level it, but the boards were not set tight enough or something to they slid off the shims and left big gaps between some of the floor boards.

The basement is block. They were supposed to fill the cells with concrete and rebar every four feet. The only filled it to the level of the soil at the time the work was done instead of filling it all the way, and they did not fill the cells at all along one wall.

The placed light switches too close to doors so the moldings had to be cut out around the switches (obviously this was caught early).


The sub-drain was farm a drain a system that does not work worth a hoot.

Some of the siding was cut short and then installed anyway.

About half the doors were hung incorrectly.

The water heater venting was installed incorrectly. It slopes upward and it comes out too low and gets buried in snow.

The shower membrane was way too low and is incomplete. This requires we completely remove all the tile and replace the membrane.

The vent fan in the shower was not framed in, it was just screwed into the lath.

The steam shower and Jacuzzi pump were wired incorrectly.


A custom built door on the carriage house was built out of untreated lumber. Then the 250 pound doors were hung on hinges that were just lag bolted to the studs.

An exterior panel on the roof was made of untreated plywood. It rotted out in ten years. This is hard to describe.

The front porch was improperly fastened to the house and came apart after bout ten years.

An exterior wooden step up to one side of the porch was built of untreated lumber and had to be replaced (this is odd because four other wood steps were built of treated lumber and are fine.

The back porch columns were built of 1x6s rather than a solid piece they warped and twisted and pulled apart at he base.

The concrete deck around the pool both sank and lifted in some places it is more than 2 inches.

An interior wall was not properly constructed. When an angry kid slammed the door, the wall flexed and broke.

The foam insulation at the top of the basement wall had gaps that allowed air to come through.

Several kitchen outlets had no GFCI protection.

two showers have no access to the valve.

A pocket door was installed with no access and the runners were screwed into the top of the door with short screws.

An electrical outlet box was installed directly under the pipes for an outdoor shower


I am undoubtedly forgetting a few things.
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