Energy Industry Layoffs and Strikes (Houston: rated, firm, east coast)

[usc619]

Originally Posted by ethanw

House is already built and they are my retired parents. What's wrong with taking care of your parents? They will pay taxes and I am covering their medical which is crazy expensive. They plan to stay here during the hard European winters as their age is no longer suitable for cold. I see no wrong in that.

You should send them back.

[ethanw]

40 posts and all you have is this :-) Meehhh

Originally Posted by bazookabang

Ha!

[bazookabang]

Originally Posted by ethanw

40 posts and all you have is this :-) Meehhh

Nice try at dodging. Didn't even attempt to respond to the rest of my post. Obviously you know your weak and incoherent arguments were exposed.

[Sugarlandbubba]

Originally Posted by ethanw

Wrong, there is no such a thing old vs new. There one thing only and that's the legal path to green card and citizenship.I have no beef with others reaching their American dream as long is on the legal path. I encourage them to do so. I don't support illegal immigrants ...

Regarding illegal immigration, I think you talk the talk but do not walk the walk. Do you do the followings?

1. I-9 and 1099 your domestic workers.
A. Lawn/gardener
B. Maid/housekeeper
C. Childcare giver at your home


2. Insist companies providing services to you to use E-verified.
A. Your home builder
B. The landscape company that you use to plant the 100 trees you previously mentioned
C. Your pest control company, etc......

Most of us don't do it because we generally Look at the price and quality of the work. I believed you when you said you don't "directly" support illegal immigration. But you will do nothing about it and keep receiving the "benefits" of companies that used illegal workers.

[crone]

Originally Posted by Sugarlandbubba

Regarding illegal immigration, I think you talk the talk but do not walk the walk. Do you do the followings?

1. I-9 and 1099 your domestic workers.
A. Lawn/gardener
B. Maid/housekeeper
C. Childcare giver at your home


2. Insist companies providing services to you to use E-verified.
A. Your home builder
B. The landscape company that you use to plant the 100 trees you previously mentioned
C. Your pest control company, etc......

Most of us don't do it because we generally Look at the price and quality of the work. I believed you when you said you don't "directly" support illegal immigration. But you will do nothing about it and keep receiving the "benefits" of companies that used illegal workers.

Thank you Bubba!!!!

Anybody who bellyaches about illegals needs to do your suggestions first. Then stay out of places like Shipleys and Pappas restaurants. If the newspapers print the fines paid or property forfeited, I stay away from that business.

[ethanw]

I completely agree with you on this. For 1. we have some control. My last lawn guy was American but his crew guess? For 2. I agree that we do receive the benefits, cheap labor, cheap houses, but what can you do about it? Don't buy a house? There are so many thing not in our control. This a huge issue that needs fixing and I have no idea where to even start.

Originally Posted by Sugarlandbubba

Regarding illegal immigration, I think you talk the talk but do not walk the walk. Do you do the followings?

1. I-9 and 1099 your domestic workers.
A. Lawn/gardener
B. Maid/housekeeper
C. Childcare giver at your home


2. Insist companies providing services to you to use E-verified.
A. Your home builder
B. The landscape company that you use to plant the 100 trees you previously mentioned
C. Your pest control company, etc......

Most of us don't do it because we generally Look at the price and quality of the work. I believed you when you said you don't "directly" support illegal immigration. But you will do nothing about it and keep receiving the "benefits" of companies that used illegal workers.

[Oildog]

Lets keep this on the energy industry and job status, rather than a debate about immigration. There is already a forum for that.

[smuggy_mba]

Originally Posted by smuggy_mba

My friend was laid off from a major and hasn't found a job in 5-6 months; he has given up and now selling his house and trying to move back to an apartment. It's hard to go down from making 150K to nothing. He's young and I hope he sells his house (which is priced right but at 550K not sure how much activity it will see) and gets over this. It's sad to see this happen to friends and people I know. If those darn Saudis stop pumping more oil, things might be better elsewhere in the world

Darn...it took over a year but finally my friend got a job couple of weeks ago...phew!!! I'm so glad and happy for him. It doesn't pay as much as before but it's still in O&G and pretty good.

[JL]

So how many people know of Engineers being laid off from the big O/G companies and now finally finding a job that pays like $60k as opposed to what their high six figure salaries were before?

[Htown2013]

Originally Posted by JL

So how many people know of Engineers being laid off from the big O/G companies and now finally finding a job that pays like $60k as opposed to what their high six figure salaries were before?

$60k is like starting salary for engineers in non O&G. Experienced engineers (10+ years) in non O&G should still make in low $100s or at least close to $100k if they are any good. $60k is terribly underpaid for an experienced engineer in any industry.