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Old 07-12-2010, 10:10 PM
 
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A new survey by Zogby International finds that people in Mexico think that granting legal status to illegal immigrants in the United States would encourage more illegal immigration to the United States. As the top immigrant-sending country for both legal and illegal immigrants, views on immigration in Mexico can provide insight into the likely impact of an amnesty, as well as other questions related to immigration.

* An overwhelming majority (69 percent) of people in Mexico thought that the primary loyalty of Mexican-Americans (Mexico- and U.S.-born) should be to Mexico. Just 20 percent said it should be to the United States. The rest were unsure.

http://cofcc.org/2009/10/zogby-56-of-all-mexicans-would-consider-mo...
This alone is reason enough to not pass amnesty.
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Old 07-21-2010, 03:15 PM
 
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But which Mexican adults were polled? Were they the wealthy upper class? Or the poor people of the rural areas?

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It's Zogby's own website annotated by a writer for the Washington Times, on the website ZOGBY INTERNATIONAL....jeez, do you not read anything which doesn't kowtow to your own belief system?
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Old 07-21-2010, 03:22 PM
 
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But which Mexican adults were polled? Were they the wealthy upper class? Or the poor people of the rural areas?
I would think that the wealthy upper class wouldn't even be interested in re-locating to the U.S. so I am sure that it was Mexico's poor that overwhelmingly want to migrate here.

As for those of Mexican ancestry living here it could be both the upper and lower class that is of the opinion that their loyatlies should still remain to Mexico.
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Old 07-21-2010, 08:34 PM
 
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But which Mexican adults were polled? Were they the wealthy upper class? Or the poor people of the rural areas?
It's a secret poll. You cannot find any information about standards of measurement they use, this information is only available on extreme far right wing websites, because it's only available to them. Shhhhhhh.
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Old 07-21-2010, 09:30 PM
 
Location: Maryland
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It's a secret poll. You cannot find any information about standards of measurement they use, this information is only available on extreme far right wing websites, because it's only available to them. Shhhhhhh.
Really?

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Most believe life is better in the United States. Close to six-in-ten (57%) say that people who move from Mexico enjoy a better life in the U.S., up from 51% in 2007. And the vast majority of those who are in regular contact with friends and relatives living in the U.S. say those friends and relatives have largely achieved their goals.

A substantial minority of Mexicans say that if they had the means and opportunity to go live in the U.S. they would do so, and more than half of those who would migrate if they had the chance say they would do so without authorization.

These are the latest findings from the 2009 survey of Mexico by the Pew Research Center's Global Attitudes Project. Face-to-face interviews were conducted with 1,000 adults in Mexico between May 26 and June 2, 2009. The sample is representative of the country's adult population, and the margin of sampling error for the results is plus or minus three percentage points.2
Most Mexicans See Better Life in U.S. - Pew Research Center

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Methodology

The in-person survey in Mexico included 1,004 persons 18 years of age and older and was conducted in August and September 2009. The sampling framework was the most recent (2009) electoral sections defined by the Federal Electoral Institute. A multi-stage sampling procedure was employed that first randomly selected 100 electoral sections proportional to size. Second, two house blocks were randomly selected from each section. Within each block, five households were selected using a systematic random procedure. The margin of error for the entire sample is +/- 3.1 percent, for a 95 percent confidence level. Margins of error are larger for sub-groups.
Public Opinion in Mexico on U.S. Immigration: Zogby Poll Examines Attitudes | Center for Immigration Studies
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Old 07-21-2010, 11:00 PM
 
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Tried to rep you Benicar but I have to spread it around. But of course the dim witted will probably retreat now. Nice job on the links.
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Old 07-22-2010, 07:57 AM
 
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Well, everybody knows that when the going gets tough, Tuco gets going.

Great info Benicar.
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Old 07-23-2010, 09:40 PM
 
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This is a completely different poll than the one mentioned by the OP. Has nothing to do with the fake poll cited. Nice try, but no cigar.


An anti immigrant biased website. Like I said, the only websites that have access to this secret poll are biased right wing websites. No links to Zogby that originated on Zogby regarding the methodology. I wonder why? Because this poll doesn't exist.
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Old 07-23-2010, 09:56 PM
 
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This is a completely different poll than the one mentioned by the OP. Has nothing to do with the fake poll cited. Nice try, but no cigar.


[url="http://www.cis.org/ZogbyPoll-EffectsOfAmnesty"]
An anti immigrant biased website. Like I said, the only websites that have access to this secret poll are biased right wing websites. No links to Zogby that originated on Zogby regarding the methodology. I wonder why? Because this poll doesn't exist.
CIS is not anti-immigrant. In fact there are no such groups. Why do the pro-illegals continue to lie like that?
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Old 07-25-2010, 01:31 PM
 
Location: SELA
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The Council of Conservative Citizens is a white nationalist organization, just as an insight.
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