Two American Citizens File Claim Over Detainment By ICE (illegal immigrants, prison, represent)
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the story is about american citizens getting caught up in a sweep...and your argueing that the majority on the bus were "illegals". You missed the fact that ALL on the bus were suspected "illegals" until proven otherwise.
that is the point.
That is why some are against SB1070 type legislation. It presume guilt till proven otherwise; and in case you are not aware, that is the reverse of American jurisprudence. Our concept of Law is Inocent until proven Guilty.
So if your ok with the aweep...and if you are ok with a couple of American citizens being detained...then I know where you stand.
The first thing that ICE did is to ask for valid I.D. Obviously those illegals couldn't produce one. I can understand why ICE would fingerprint and detain the two who were citizens because they were taking part in a crime.
the story is about american citizens getting caught up in a sweep...and your argueing that the majority on the bus were "illegals". You missed the fact that ALL on the bus were suspected "illegals" until proven otherwise.
that is the point.
That is why some are against SB1070 type legislation. It presume guilt till proven otherwise; and in case you are not aware, that is the reverse of American jurisprudence. Our concept of Law is Inocent until proven Guilty.
So if your ok with the aweep...and if you are ok with a couple of American citizens being detained...then I know where you stand.
They were suspected of being illegal, and were later released. That is standard procedure for law enforcement. Are you suggesting only citizens should be considered suspects, and anyone who “may be” an illegal should be off-limits for questioning by police?
Furthermore, SB 1070 does not presume guilt. An illegal must first violate a law. But then, you know this.
They were suspected of being illegal, and were later released. That is standard procedure for law enforcement. Are you suggesting only citizens should be considered suspects, and anyone who “may be” an illegal should be off-limits for questioning by police?
Furthermore, SB 1070 does not presume guilt. An illegal must first violate a law. But then, you know this.
The pro-illegals know that about SB1070 but they will still claim racial profiling anyway with no basis for it whatsoever.
The first thing that ICE did is to ask for valid I.D. Obviously those illegals couldn't produce one. I can understand why ICE would fingerprint and detain the two who were citizens because they were taking part in a crime.
When did traveling by bus round trip between Denver and Omaha become a crime?
the story is about american citizens getting caught up in a sweep...and your argueing that the majority on the bus were "illegals". You missed the fact that ALL on the bus were suspected "illegals" until proven otherwise.
that is the point.
That is why some are against SB1070 type legislation. It presume guilt till proven otherwise; and in case you are not aware, that is the reverse of American jurisprudence. Our concept of Law is Inocent until proven Guilty.
So if your ok with the aweep...and if you are ok with a couple of American citizens being detained...then I know where you stand.
Oh please....illegals don't have a stamp on their forehead. These two were caught up in a sweep, no big deal. Had they had proper documentation, all would have been well. Because surely everyone tells the truth!?! Yeah, right.
If they had proper documentation and were still detained, then they would have cause to complain. And a lousy state i.d. does not qualify, especially in these days of exceptional forgery. When I travel, I have proper documentation - always. I don't expect to get checked, but I carry it. Wake up, it's a new day since 9/11. They were among a bus load of illegals, didn't have adequate documentation to substantiate their claim to US citizenship, and my guess, probably had an attitude to boot.
Those that are here illegally should be deported. If you're legal, then have the proper documentation to support it. Like I said, there is no stamp on the forehead.
Oh please....illegals don't have a stamp on their forehead. These two were caught up in a sweep, no big deal. Had they had proper documentation, all would have been well. Because surely everyone tells the truth!?! Yeah, right.
If they had proper documentation and were still detained, then they would have cause to complain. And a lousy state i.d. does not qualify, especially in these days of exceptional forgery. When I travel, I have proper documentation - always. I don't expect to get checked, but I carry it. Wake up, it's a new day since 9/11. They were among a bus load of illegals, didn't have adequate documentation to substantiate their claim to US citizenship, and my guess, probably had an attitude to boot.
Those that are here illegally should be deported. If you're legal, then have the proper documentation to support it. Like I said, there is no stamp on the forehead.
Oh please....illegals don't have a stamp on their forehead. These two were caught up in a sweep, no big deal. Had they had proper documentation, all would have been well. Because surely everyone tells the truth!?! Yeah, right.
If they had proper documentation and were still detained, then they would have cause to complain. And a lousy state i.d. does not qualify, especially in these days of exceptional forgery. When I travel, I have proper documentation - always. I don't expect to get checked, but I carry it. Wake up, it's a new day since 9/11. They were among a bus load of illegals, didn't have adequate documentation to substantiate their claim to US citizenship, and my guess, probably had an attitude to boot.
Those that are here illegally should be deported. If you're legal, then have the proper documentation to support it. Like I said, there is no stamp on the forehead.
Like these two individuals, I'm a native born American citizen. I travel a lot, and I've never carried any form of ID outside of my state ID. What, in your mind, is adequate and proper documentation?
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