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Location: Oklahoma(formerly SoCalif) Originally Mich,
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Originally Posted by Opyelie
I really don't see how a state CAN "grant work permits" as the legal right to work in this country is a FEDERAL immigration issue.
Illegal supporters don't see it either.
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Though he likes the idea of work permits, Tony Yapias, director of Proyecto Latino de Utah, sees the federal government as a huge hurdle.
"Why would the federal government want to give Utah, of all states, this accountability act?" he said. "Utah would have to be exceptionally democratic in some way for the Obama administration to even consider it."
Yapias said the bill gives false hopes to the undocumented community.
"Anyone who understands immigration 101 realizes right away this is not possible," he said. "Is it realistic? No. It ain't gonna happen."
That's good, surprising in Utah. It's funny 'cause Utah's Senator voted for The Dream Act bill today, lol. And there is that ol' ITIN again.
Goes to prove the Senators no longer have the States best interest in mind, now that they are elected by big money special interest, instead of appointed by the States legislatures.
A license to operate a motor vehicle doesn't give one citizenship or legal residency status.
It doesn’t change their status, but it does lend legitimacy to their presence. We can’t on the one hand, tell people their presence violates our laws . . . but on the other hand, issue licenses permitting them to drive and have a legal form of ID.
Plus it should be as DIFFICULT as possible to live in this country illegally. Having no legal way to drive a vehicle is part of that, and it should be a deportable offence (with NO mitigating circumstances allowed) if caught driving without one imho.
It doesn’t change their status, but it does lend legitimacy to their presence. We can’t on the one hand, tell people their presence violates our laws . . . but on the other hand, issue licenses permitting them to drive and have a legal form of ID.
I would rather have licensed, insured, and documented drivers out on the road, personally. The idea of having unqualified drivers out on the road seems more dangerous to me than the fact that there are people here without papers.
Until illegals start getting deported, the legality of their presence is a fairly moot point since they aren't getting punished for it.
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Originally Posted by chicagonut
Other than 3 states a DL is proof that one is in this country legally because documents by the motorist are provided to prove it.
That's fine, but there are 3 loopholes for them to still take advantage of.
I knew several illegals in CA that would go up to OR to get DL's back when OR offered illegals DL's.
As long as there is still a place for them to go, they will go there.
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Originally Posted by Opyelie
Plus it should be as DIFFICULT as possible to live in this country illegally. Having no legal way to drive a vehicle is part of that, and it should be a deportable offence (with NO mitigating circumstances allowed) if caught driving without one imho.
"Should be" and "are" are two different things. Until they start getting deported....
I would rather have licensed, insured, and documented drivers out on the road, personally. The idea of having unqualified drivers out on the road seems more dangerous to me than the fact that there are people here without papers.
Until illegals start getting deported, the legality of their presence is a fairly moot point since they aren't getting punished for it.
That's fine, but there are 3 loopholes for them to still take advantage of.
I knew several illegals in CA that would go up to OR to get DL's back when OR offered illegals DL's.
As long as there is still a place for them to go, they will go there.
"Should be" and "are" are two different things. Until they start getting deported....
Not being able to get a DL in any state is just one of the things that will encourage them to self-deport or not come here at all. The fear of getting caught and deported is a deterrant for some.
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