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Old 01-05-2011, 10:31 PM
 
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Republicans will propose a deal with Democrats. Republicans will vote for the DREAM Act in exchange for the Democrat's support on a bill to modify the 14th Amendment to close the anchor baby loophole.

Since this bill will be an amendment to an amendment, it will still require ratification by 3/4 of States.

Dream Act is contingent on 3/4 of States ratification.
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Old 01-06-2011, 05:16 AM
 
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Really? No deal.
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Old 01-06-2011, 07:13 AM
 
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The 14th Amendment should not be used as a bargaining chip for the passage of the DREAM Act. We MUST end the abuse of Birthright Citizenship for the betterment of our country; whereas, the current DREAM Act is a reward for lawlessness, and is not an imperative.

I would consider supporting the DREAM Act only if it had the following requirements:

- Must have verifiable proof of being brought to this country under the age of 12.

- Must have at least a 4-year degree in the fields of science, technology, engineering, education, or others that will actually benefit this country; or currently within 30 credits from completion of a 4-year degree, which must be completed within 18 months from the date of enactment.

- No tax-funded benefits, including in-state tuition.

- No chain migration or sponsorship of parents, EVER.

- No criminal background, including working using a fake or stolen SSN, or any fraudulent behavior. A violation after legalization will result in immediate deportation.

- Only those with the aforementioned qualifications on the date of enactment of the DREAM Act will be eligible. No provisions for “future” DREAMies.

- Must submit to an exhaustive criminal background check and medical exam, at their expense.

- DREAM Act application fees of at least $5,000, payable in advance.

- No exceptions!

This may seem harsh, but the current DREAM Act is ripe for fraud, is much too lenient, and is essentially piecemeal amnesty. It would also serve as another incentive for illegal immigration.
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Old 01-06-2011, 07:46 AM
 
Location: 3rd rock from the sun
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The 14th Amendment should not be used as a bargaining chip for the passage of the DREAM Act. We MUST end the abuse of Birthright Citizenship for the betterment of our country; whereas, the current DREAM Act is a reward for lawlessness, and is not an imperative.

I would consider supporting the DREAM Act only if it had the following requirements:

- Must have verifiable proof of being brought to this country under the age of 12.

- Must have at least a 4-year degree in the fields of science, technology, engineering, education, or others that will actually benefit this country; or currently within 30 credits from completion of a 4-year degree, which must be completed within 18 months from the date of enactment.

- No tax-funded benefits, including in-state tuition.

- No chain migration or sponsorship of parents, EVER.

- No criminal background, including working using a fake or stolen SSN, or any fraudulent behavior. A violation after legalization will result in immediate deportation.

- Only those with the aforementioned qualifications on the date of enactment of the DREAM Act will be eligible. No provisions for “future” DREAMies.

- Must submit to an exhaustive criminal background check and medical exam, at their expense.

- DREAM Act application fees of at least $5,000, payable in advance.

- No exceptions!

This may seem harsh, but the current DREAM Act is ripe for fraud, is much too lenient, and is essentially piecemeal amnesty. It would also serve as another incentive for illegal immigration.
That's some list. You only forgot three things 1) snorkle my butt 2) lick my shoes and 3) bend over.
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Old 01-06-2011, 07:52 AM
 
Location: Maryland
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That's some list. You only forgot three things 1) snorkle my butt 2) lick my shoes and 3) bend over.
Is that disapproval, or a kinky invitation?
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Old 01-06-2011, 08:46 AM
 
Location: San Diego
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Originally Posted by Benicar View Post
The 14th Amendment should not be used as a bargaining chip for the passage of the DREAM Act. We MUST end the abuse of Birthright Citizenship for the betterment of our country; whereas, the current DREAM Act is a reward for lawlessness, and is not an imperative.

I would consider supporting the DREAM Act only if it had the following requirements:

- Must have verifiable proof of being brought to this country under the age of 12.

- Must have at least a 4-year degree in the fields of science, technology, engineering, education, or others that will actually benefit this country; or currently within 30 credits from completion of a 4-year degree, which must be completed within 18 months from the date of enactment.

- No tax-funded benefits, including in-state tuition.

- No chain migration or sponsorship of parents, EVER.

- No criminal background, including working using a fake or stolen SSN, or any fraudulent behavior. A violation after legalization will result in immediate deportation.

- Only those with the aforementioned qualifications on the date of enactment of the DREAM Act will be eligible. No provisions for “future” DREAMies.

- Must submit to an exhaustive criminal background check and medical exam, at their expense.

- DREAM Act application fees of at least $5,000, payable in advance.

- No exceptions!

This may seem harsh, but the current DREAM Act is ripe for fraud, is much too lenient, and is essentially piecemeal amnesty. It would also serve as another incentive for illegal immigration.
Agreed, and I think that anyone who doesn't think it should be difficult to become a Citizen sounds pretty pro-illegal and pro-crime!!
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Old 01-06-2011, 09:46 AM
 
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is that disapproval, or a kinky invitation?
roflmao.....
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Old 01-06-2011, 09:47 AM
 
Location: Pa
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Originally Posted by Benicar View Post
The 14th Amendment should not be used as a bargaining chip for the passage of the DREAM Act. We MUST end the abuse of Birthright Citizenship for the betterment of our country; whereas, the current DREAM Act is a reward for lawlessness, and is not an imperative.

I would consider supporting the DREAM Act only if it had the following requirements:

- Must have verifiable proof of being brought to this country under the age of 12.

- Must have at least a 4-year degree in the fields of science, technology, engineering, education, or others that will actually benefit this country; or currently within 30 credits from completion of a 4-year degree, which must be completed within 18 months from the date of enactment.

- No tax-funded benefits, including in-state tuition.

- No chain migration or sponsorship of parents, EVER.

- No criminal background, including working using a fake or stolen SSN, or any fraudulent behavior. A violation after legalization will result in immediate deportation.

- Only those with the aforementioned qualifications on the date of enactment of the DREAM Act will be eligible. No provisions for “future” DREAMies.

- Must submit to an exhaustive criminal background check and medical exam, at their expense.

- DREAM Act application fees of at least $5,000, payable in advance.

- No exceptions!

This may seem harsh, but the current DREAM Act is ripe for fraud, is much too lenient, and is essentially piecemeal amnesty. It would also serve as another incentive for illegal immigration.
Agreed. The fees should be comparable to what legal immigrants would expect to pay for their adult children to come here.
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Old 01-06-2011, 09:54 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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Republicans will propose a deal with Democrats. Republicans will vote for the DREAM Act in exchange for the Democrat's support on a bill to modify the 14th Amendment to close the anchor baby loophole.

Since this bill will be an amendment to an amendment, it will still require ratification by 3/4 of States.

Dream Act is contingent on 3/4 of States ratification.

No they won't, if they are actually listening to the people like they say they are.


No to any dream act and yes to making the anchor baby deal very specific, eliminating it, as their are no more slaves!
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Old 01-06-2011, 12:35 PM
 
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Why are we Bartering our Borders????????????
NO NO NO NO NO
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