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Old 01-28-2011, 04:16 PM
 
Location: No Mask For Me This Time, Either
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After reading the article..... Wow! The sense of entitlement is staggering.

Makes a pretty good case for late term abortion also. (OK, let the flames begin!)
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Old 01-28-2011, 04:37 PM
 
Location: Oklahoma(formerly SoCalif) Originally Mich,
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So it is penalizing her unborn/newborn by denying them citizenship? What about making the child a citizen of the mother's homeland or is that considered to be a penalty?

However, I have no problem with a newborn being made a citizen of our country if at least one parent is a citizen.
She's doing the punishment. She "knowingly" came here illegaly. Pumped out 1 kid and then another, clearly ,knowing both times, the consequences.
She's just taking advantage of the loopholes in the Laws.

Besides, what's she worried about? That is.........unless the real Biological father(s)
are also illegal.

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Old 01-28-2011, 05:51 PM
 
Location: Tempe, Az
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She's doing the punishment. She "knowingly" came here illegaly. Pumped out 1 kid and then another, clearly ,knowing both times, the consequences.
She's just taking advantage of the loopholes in the Laws.

Besides, what's she worried about? That is.........unless the real Biological father(s)
are also illegal.
Just an illegal playing the system. Even if the fathers are Americans.
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Old 01-28-2011, 06:20 PM
 
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Fine, the baby is an American citizen, deport the mother......
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Old 01-28-2011, 09:05 PM
 
Location: So Cal
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Would anyone like to take a guess who is going to be paying for that child to be born?
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Old 01-28-2011, 09:09 PM
 
Location: Tempe, Az
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Would anyone like to take a guess who is going to be paying for that child to be born?
You and I.
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Old 01-28-2011, 10:32 PM
 
Location: Oklahoma(formerly SoCalif) Originally Mich,
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Would anyone like to take a guess who is going to be paying for that child to be born?
There's no question about it.

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Old 01-28-2011, 10:45 PM
 
Location: San Diego North County
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The Child[when born here] has that RIGHT now...why wait for a law?

The 14th amendment to the US Consitution-

Section 1. All persons born[/b] or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States[/b] and of the State wherein they reside...
There's the part you should be highlighting--because this is the part of the Fourteenth Amendment that many legal scholars find untenable. If a child's parents are not citizens of the country in which it is born--they are not ultimately subject to the jurisdiction of that country, but of the country in which they retain citizenship. It would then stand to reason that their child also would be subject to the jurisdiction of the home country of the parents.

This is why the Fourteenth Amendment will eventually be amended or done away with completely.
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Old 01-28-2011, 10:54 PM
 
Location: Oklahoma(formerly SoCalif) Originally Mich,
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Child[when born here] has that RIGHT now...why wait for a law?
The 14th amendment to the US Consitution-

Section 1. All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside...
She's the one pretending that it doesn't have the right.
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Old 01-29-2011, 04:12 AM
 
Location: Chicago
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Illegal Mother: My Unborn Child Deserves Citizenship (http://www.myfoxphoenix.com/dpp/news/immigration/illegal-mother-citizenship-1-27-2011?obref=obinsite - broken link)
The only thing the child deserves is that the mother be deported.
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