DOJ says Mexican cartels operating in over 1,000 U.S. cities (website, born)
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Calm down before you have a heart attack or a nervous break down. The population of illegal immigration is actually on the decline, and probably has been steadily for the past four years.
I would appreciate it if you would view these videos that are just single cameras actively catching the never ending flow of people illegally entering this country.
It's the laws in the first place that are causing the problems -- well that and our society.
It's American laws that create a black market, and it's Americans themselves that are fueling a lucrative demand. The drug dealers are merely providing the supply. There's too much money on the table to ignore. We can build the biggest fence in the world. They'll just put it on cargo ships or find some other way to get it in. Walls won't stop them. Fear won't stop them. Intelligence might.
What about extortion? It's also a lucrative black market, and something the cartels do for money. They're going to do it whether it's legal or not, how about we just legalize it? And legalize kidnapping for ransom since the ransom victims and their families who pay up are just providing a big supply of money. Oh and weapons to Mexico, legalize them too, and we know the Obama administration is involved in weapons smuggling into Mexico with Fast and Furious.
It's very simplistic to think all these decapitations and mass burial pits involve only pot dealers and that everything will be sweet and fine once all drugs are legalized --- these murderers are still guilty of murder and you want to just let them get off and run drugs legally?
I would appreciate it if you would view these videos that are just single cameras actively catching the never ending flow of people illegally entering this country.
Whether illegal border crossings are down or not is irrelevant anyway. We still have at least 10 million already inside our borders. As I asked before, "shall we ignore the elephant in the living room because there are a few ants coming into the kitchen"? I guess the pro-illegals want us to.
Goodness! You don't think we will need police protection if we legalize all drugs?
Mexico did decriminalize drugs and their homicide and other crime rates only escalated greatly after that.
What I think is naive is that people believe the only crime the cartels are committing to get money is running drugs over to the USA. We should just legalize their products and they'll end their greed and fighting? We should become a nation where any dangerous and highly addictive drug can be brought over the border so citizens of foreign countries can get immensely rich by poisoning our people?
It's the greed of these cartels that's causing the problems, the border is so open they have absolutely no trouble getting their drugs over it, and there is more than enough money for all -- but more than enough money isn't what they're after, they want no competition, they want all the money to themselves and all the power that the money buys them. Legalizing drugs does not stop the greed of the cartel lords, they'll still take out their competition.
Besides anyone who is paying attention knows it's not just about drugs, in Juarez, the biggest danger in going over are the carjackers who will kill you if you hestitate for even a moment when turning over your car to them.
The real problem in Mexico is it's drug addiction, these killers aren't killing for money to buy food, they will kill their own mothers for drug money, the drugs are that addictive. These people on the lower rungs of the cartel will do absolutely anything for their drug money. More drugs, making drugs more easily available isn't going to fix the problems.
And extortion is coming over the border, these signs have absolutely nothing to do with drugs. So because the Mexicans want to come here and do extortions, must we legalize that for them also?
You are absolutely correct Malamute. Once again, people want us to change our way of life to passify an intruder. As long as we keep giving in it will never stop.
This country used to have a policy of not giving in to these type demands. We will see what happens with this escalating problem.
This is my own little conspiracy theory but I feel like the recent reported kills of the terrorists might be a ploy to bring our troops home, by declaring victory. I would love to see this even if it's based on half truths. I'm also hoping they may be bringing them home to finally protect our homeland. That could be the feather Obama needs for his cap.
I doubt it, but at this point our dreams remain unregulated.
You are absolutely correct Malamute. Once again, people want us to change our way of life to passify an intruder. As long as we keep giving in it will never stop.
This country used to have a policy of not giving in to these type demands. We will see what happens with this escalating problem.
This is my own little conspiracy theory but I feel like the recent reported kills of the terrorists might be a ploy to bring our troops home, by declaring victory. I would love to see this even if it's based on half truths. I'm also hoping they may be bringing them home to finally protect our homeland. That could be the feather Obama needs for his cap.
I doubt it, but at this point our dreams remain unregulated.
Yes and homicide rates in the USA are actually significantly down.
We would not be legalizing drugs for the sake of our homicide rates obviously or for our problems with too much greed but for those living in another country. It's Mexican greed, blood lust and corruption, not ours that has led to this problem with it's cartels. All we should do is stop letting them have full access to the USA.
The reason the border towns in Mexico are a big mess is for one, they're far from Mexico City and Mexico has a Centralist form of government that makes it difficult for them to govern the far off regions. And the USA allows these groups to control the border and everything and everyone that is brought over it. They're fighting over lucrative criminal routes but they aren't only fighting for them as we've seen by all the atrocities in far away Michoacan and Veracruz.
For example the murders in Michoacan are not of drug runners into the USA and there is no reason to believe any of those 40 corpses dumped out onto a busy street in Veracruz were running drugs into the USA. Some were prostitutes, at least one was a transvestite sex worker -- but no evidence they were running drugs over the border to the USA.
No mention of him/her ever running drugs into the USA. Nothing - it's very clear much of these murders have nothing to do with drug trafficking. They have to do with the Mexican cartels which has a big drug running business among many big businesses. The recent burning of a casino in Monterrey wasn't about drug running either.
And unless Mexico is willing to let armed US forces cross their border to help, they hold the blame as far as I'm concerned. It's pretty easy to blame the US while they keep our hands tied in the situation.
It's hard for me to accept the adage that the US is responsible for the drug traffic because we are the consumers. The border goes both ways. Why aren't the cartels being caught on the Mexican side of the border? And the new freedom for truck drivers out of Mexico is just the icing on the cake, IMO. There has to be a lot of corruption going all the way to the top on both sides of the border IMO. No one wants to deal with the problem because they want their cut.
That's why I get so frustrated with the One World Order people. If the people at the top are corrupt, who polices them. We're doing a crap job policing the way it is. Laws become more resrictive on the citizenry and those at the top slide.
And the flip side is that the US gets blamed for the weapons in Mexico. Yet wouldn't that make THEM the consumers?
Tossing blame around just causes a diversion, it doesn't deal with any problems.
Before the drug epidemics came in the mid 80's there were not all these addicts. First come the drugs, then come the addicts.
Says who? There were all kinds of addicts in the 1960s and 70s; the 1980s simply had different types of drugs. According to USDOJ statistics, the highest percentage of reported drug use occurred in 1979 - long before the border became an issue.
Says who? There were all kinds of addicts in the 1960s and 70s; the 1980s simply had different types of drugs. According to USDOJ statistics, the highest percentage of reported drug use occurred in 1979 - long before the border became an issue.
Exuse me, I'm speaking of cocaine and methamphetamine. The cocaine epidemic started in the early 80's, the meth epidemic started a bit later, here. Epidemics as in the greatest numbers and widespread popularity.
It's hard for me to accept the adage that the US is responsible for the drug traffic because we are the consumers.
Who else can be responsible? It's not like Mexicans are forcing Americans to consume drugs. When you go to an Asian country, you'll find drug traffickers and users there, too. The difference, though, is that the demand for drugs is much smaller. Additionally, the penalties for trafficking are extreme, with mandatory death by hanging in some countries. Both factors make drug trafficking risky business with limited payoff. It's the exact opposite in the U.S. It's a moderate risk but extremely rewarding business enterprise. The risks come from other cartels fighting over the same consumer market.
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The border goes both ways. Why aren't the cartels being caught on the Mexican side of the border?
Maybe because the cartels have made so much money from the black market that they basically own their side of the border? That's what I'm talking about here. You have to take away their funding mechanism if you want to defeat them. Their power comes from money, and that money comes from the American consumer.
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And the flip side is that the US gets blamed for the weapons in Mexico. Yet wouldn't that make THEM the consumers?
The weapons are for the cartels. They are using American money to buy American weapons to establish their trade zones and to literally kill the competition and anyone who dares to get in their way. You're seeing this as an issue of one nation's citizens versus another, which is a simplification that misses the point.
Most illegal aliens in the U.S. probably have and want nothing to do with the cartels. That's probably one major reason why they're here in the first place, to escape them. Our stupid economic policies and criminal legislation is what is creating this beast to begin with. The sooner the average person can understand that, the sooner we might solve the problem.
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